1 00:00:07,367 --> 00:00:09,168 Welcome everyone. My name is 2 00:00:09,168 --> 00:00:11,466 Welcome everyone. My name is Ashlyn Shockley Martin. I am 3 00:00:11,466 --> 00:00:13,433 Ashlyn Shockley Martin. I am the founder and President of 4 00:00:13,433 --> 00:00:15,367 the founder and President of the Board of the Chisholm 5 00:00:15,367 --> 00:00:16,701 the Board of the Chisholm Leadership Academy for those of 6 00:00:16,701 --> 00:00:17,901 Leadership Academy for those of you who are new to our 7 00:00:17,901 --> 00:00:19,566 you who are new to our Organization or joining one of 8 00:00:19,566 --> 00:00:21,467 Organization or joining one of our town halls for the first 9 00:00:21,467 --> 00:00:24,201 our town halls for the first time we are a Georgia based 10 00:00:24,201 --> 00:00:25,301 time we are a Georgia based nonprofit that strives to 11 00:00:25,301 --> 00:00:27,134 nonprofit that strives to cultivate safe spaces and 12 00:00:27,134 --> 00:00:29,934 cultivate safe spaces and culturally responsive education 13 00:00:29,934 --> 00:00:31,134 culturally responsive education for girls and young women in 14 00:00:31,134 --> 00:00:33,367 for girls and young women in Middle and high school. I’m 15 00:00:33,367 --> 00:00:34,734 Middle and high school. I’m excited about tonight’s 16 00:00:34,734 --> 00:00:36,401 excited about tonight’s conversation because it is the 17 00:00:36,401 --> 00:00:38,134 conversation because it is the culmination of a month of 18 00:00:38,134 --> 00:00:39,967 culmination of a month of celebration and amplification 19 00:00:39,967 --> 00:00:42,834 celebration and amplification of historic and current LGBTQ 20 00:00:42,834 --> 00:00:44,901 of historic and current LGBTQ women leaders. It’s also an 21 00:00:44,901 --> 00:00:46,533 women leaders. It’s also an opportunity to highlight the 22 00:00:46,533 --> 00:00:47,333 opportunity to highlight the work that remains to be done 23 00:00:47,333 --> 00:00:53,701 work that remains to be done to. Equity for LGBTQIA people 24 00:00:53,701 --> 00:00:54,467 to. Equity for LGBTQIA people in just a moment, I will turn 25 00:00:54,467 --> 00:00:56,433 in just a moment, I will turn it over to my colleague and 26 00:00:56,433 --> 00:00:58,500 it over to my colleague and fellow board member and Noah 27 00:00:58,500 --> 00:00:59,534 fellow board member and Noah Tonga, but I wanna thank each 28 00:00:59,534 --> 00:01:01,367 Tonga, but I wanna thank each of our speakers for joining us 29 00:01:01,367 --> 00:01:02,800 of our speakers for joining us this evening for what I know 30 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,400 this evening for what I know will be a rich and candid 31 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,000 will be a rich and candid discussion and each of you for 32 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,934 discussion and each of you for joining us as well as always, 33 00:01:08,934 --> 00:01:10,800 joining us as well as always, we want you to chime in so 34 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,401 we want you to chime in so please share your thoughts and 35 00:01:12,401 --> 00:01:15,133 please share your thoughts and questions in the chat box or 36 00:01:15,133 --> 00:01:17,233 questions in the chat box or using the hashtag CLA pride 37 00:01:17,233 --> 00:01:20,134 using the hashtag CLA pride again. That’s hashtag CLA pride 38 00:01:20,134 --> 00:01:22,300 again. That’s hashtag CLA pride or by tagging us at Chisholm 39 00:01:22,300 --> 00:01:23,567 or by tagging us at Chisholm leaders whether you are a 40 00:01:23,567 --> 00:01:27,266 leaders whether you are a member of the. Or an ally, we 41 00:01:27,266 --> 00:01:29,167 member of the. Or an ally, we hope that you will find 42 00:01:29,167 --> 00:01:30,601 hope that you will find tonight’s conversation to be 43 00:01:30,601 --> 00:01:35,501 tonight’s conversation to be inspiring and enriching. 44 00:01:41,667 --> 00:01:44,867 Greetings everyone and welcome 45 00:01:44,867 --> 00:01:47,534 Greetings everyone and welcome to another conversation led by 46 00:01:47,534 --> 00:01:49,034 to another conversation led by the Chisholm Leadership 47 00:01:49,034 --> 00:01:52,134 the Chisholm Leadership Academy, 48 00:01:52,234 --> 00:01:55,734 I am an Ashtanga and I have the 49 00:01:55,734 --> 00:01:57,401 I am an Ashtanga and I have the honor and privilege to have an 50 00:01:57,401 --> 00:01:58,500 honor and privilege to have an amazing dialogue this evening 51 00:01:58,500 --> 00:02:00,700 amazing dialogue this evening and hopefully we’ll have some 52 00:02:00,700 --> 00:02:02,666 and hopefully we’ll have some great questions from you all 53 00:02:02,666 --> 00:02:05,801 great questions from you all but I’m going to be joining in 54 00:02:05,801 --> 00:02:07,967 but I’m going to be joining in just momentarily. some really 55 00:02:07,967 --> 00:02:09,967 just momentarily. some really amazing women who’ve taken the 56 00:02:09,967 --> 00:02:11,733 amazing women who’ve taken the time out this evening on the 57 00:02:11,733 --> 00:02:13,467 time out this evening on the last day of Pride and I will 58 00:02:13,467 --> 00:02:15,066 last day of Pride and I will say that just because today is 59 00:02:15,066 --> 00:02:17,201 say that just because today is the last day of Pride doesn’t 60 00:02:17,201 --> 00:02:19,001 the last day of Pride doesn’t mean that pride is not a 61 00:02:19,001 --> 00:02:21,867 mean that pride is not a year-round thing that we should 62 00:02:21,867 --> 00:02:23,634 year-round thing that we should be lifting up and and 63 00:02:23,634 --> 00:02:24,367 be lifting up and and celebrating terms of 64 00:02:24,367 --> 00:02:28,000 celebrating terms of recognizing the contributions. 65 00:02:28,634 --> 00:02:31,134 And just leadership of members 66 00:02:31,134 --> 00:02:34,400 And just leadership of members of the LGBTQIA community around 67 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,834 of the LGBTQIA community around us I just wanted to really just 68 00:02:37,834 --> 00:02:39,901 us I just wanted to really just briefly just put this moment in 69 00:02:39,901 --> 00:02:42,867 briefly just put this moment in context along with just what 70 00:02:42,867 --> 00:02:44,467 context along with just what we’ve been having happening 71 00:02:44,467 --> 00:02:47,500 we’ve been having happening just the past over a month in 72 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:49,667 just the past over a month in terms of like uprisings and 73 00:02:49,667 --> 00:02:51,034 terms of like uprisings and protests and engagement that 74 00:02:51,034 --> 00:02:52,367 protests and engagement that we’ve been seeing all over the 75 00:02:52,367 --> 00:02:56,167 we’ve been seeing all over the country, I was just reminded of 76 00:02:56,167 --> 00:02:58,000 country, I was just reminded of 32 or three years ago, Black 77 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,034 32 or three years ago, Black Lives matter Toronto actually 78 00:03:01,034 --> 00:03:02,034 Lives matter Toronto actually you know through their activism 79 00:03:02,034 --> 00:03:05,167 you know through their activism really. 80 00:03:06,034 --> 00:03:09,401 Tone at Pride in Toronto where 81 00:03:09,401 --> 00:03:11,301 Tone at Pride in Toronto where they turned it into not just a 82 00:03:11,301 --> 00:03:12,933 they turned it into not just a celebration of Black Lives, 83 00:03:12,933 --> 00:03:14,900 celebration of Black Lives, specifically black trans lives, 84 00:03:14,900 --> 00:03:17,934 specifically black trans lives, but also like really putting 85 00:03:17,934 --> 00:03:19,801 but also like really putting the community on notice in 86 00:03:19,801 --> 00:03:22,833 the community on notice in terms of. insurance issues with 87 00:03:22,833 --> 00:03:24,901 terms of. insurance issues with how people of color generally, 88 00:03:24,901 --> 00:03:27,934 how people of color generally, but really black leaders and 89 00:03:27,934 --> 00:03:29,534 but really black leaders and other organizers in the spaces 90 00:03:29,534 --> 00:03:31,767 other organizers in the spaces were being treated and so I 91 00:03:31,767 --> 00:03:33,933 were being treated and so I think it’s really important 92 00:03:33,933 --> 00:03:35,601 think it’s really important that we’re censoring the voices 93 00:03:35,601 --> 00:03:37,466 that we’re censoring the voices and conversation of women of 94 00:03:37,466 --> 00:03:38,634 and conversation of women of color generally, but LGBTQ 95 00:03:38,634 --> 00:03:41,767 color generally, but LGBTQ women. 96 00:03:42,201 --> 00:03:43,966 Especially this evening as we 97 00:03:43,966 --> 00:03:46,866 Especially this evening as we close out the month of and as 98 00:03:46,866 --> 00:03:47,700 close out the month of and as many of my faves like to say 99 00:03:47,700 --> 00:03:51,566 many of my faves like to say like you know pride was pride 100 00:03:51,566 --> 00:03:53,401 like you know pride was pride started as a riot like we think 101 00:03:53,401 --> 00:03:55,067 started as a riot like we think about so well right we think 102 00:03:55,067 --> 00:03:58,201 about so well right we think about how it was kicked off by 103 00:03:58,201 --> 00:04:01,467 about how it was kicked off by Marsha P Johnson and that women 104 00:04:01,467 --> 00:04:02,967 Marsha P Johnson and that women of color have been at the 105 00:04:02,967 --> 00:04:04,700 of color have been at the forefront of so many different 106 00:04:04,700 --> 00:04:06,600 forefront of so many different movements, spaces and 107 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,134 movements, spaces and conversations, and it’s not 108 00:04:09,134 --> 00:04:11,000 conversations, and it’s not just these feel-good 109 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:11,767 just these feel-good opportunities that we now see 110 00:04:11,767 --> 00:04:13,633 opportunities that we now see with rainbow flags posted all 111 00:04:13,633 --> 00:04:16,801 with rainbow flags posted all over everything from. 112 00:04:17,601 --> 00:04:20,833 Gifts to I don’t know whatever 113 00:04:20,833 --> 00:04:24,334 Gifts to I don’t know whatever name you’re your favorite store 114 00:04:24,334 --> 00:04:25,967 name you’re your favorite store there’s so much more deeper to 115 00:04:25,967 --> 00:04:27,834 there’s so much more deeper to this right and so we need to 116 00:04:27,834 --> 00:04:28,834 this right and so we need to value people similar when we 117 00:04:28,834 --> 00:04:30,634 value people similar when we talk about like Women’s history 118 00:04:30,634 --> 00:04:31,567 talk about like Women’s history Month or black history month, 119 00:04:31,567 --> 00:04:33,267 Month or black history month, we need to value people outside 120 00:04:33,267 --> 00:04:35,734 we need to value people outside of this like predetermined 121 00:04:35,734 --> 00:04:37,634 of this like predetermined times the celebration right so 122 00:04:37,634 --> 00:04:40,334 times the celebration right so I believe I’m going to be 123 00:04:40,334 --> 00:04:42,134 I believe I’m going to be joined by some amazing 124 00:04:42,134 --> 00:04:44,267 joined by some amazing panelists State Representative 125 00:04:44,267 --> 00:04:47,833 panelists State Representative Renita Shannon local Atlanta 126 00:04:47,833 --> 00:04:54,801 Renita Shannon local Atlanta based organizer for Rosa side. 127 00:04:54,867 --> 00:04:56,901 For those that can correct if I 128 00:04:56,901 --> 00:05:00,000 For those that can correct if I mispronounce her last name and 129 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,133 mispronounce her last name and then you know, Forza is also a 130 00:05:03,133 --> 00:05:04,901 then you know, Forza is also a realtor we might get into like 131 00:05:04,901 --> 00:05:06,600 realtor we might get into like her latest bit of activism 132 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,500 her latest bit of activism today and then we will be 133 00:05:09,500 --> 00:05:11,701 today and then we will be shortly joined as well by 134 00:05:11,701 --> 00:05:15,333 shortly joined as well by Candice, who is a organizer of 135 00:05:15,333 --> 00:05:16,800 Candice, who is a organizer of Black Lives Matter Houston, as 136 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,134 Black Lives Matter Houston, as well as a co-lead for the Black 137 00:05:21,134 --> 00:05:23,301 well as a co-lead for the Black Women’s March in Houston and so 138 00:05:23,301 --> 00:05:28,166 Women’s March in Houston and so I At the intersection of being 139 00:05:28,166 --> 00:05:33,634 I At the intersection of being a black ??? woman. Thank you 140 00:05:33,634 --> 00:05:40,233 a black ??? woman. Thank you Renita forza hi nice to see you 141 00:05:40,233 --> 00:05:43,168 Renita forza hi nice to see you I am how are you saying the 142 00:05:43,168 --> 00:05:44,966 I am how are you saying the same opening question? you know 143 00:05:44,966 --> 00:05:46,233 same opening question? you know just give us a short 144 00:05:46,233 --> 00:05:47,267 just give us a short introduction and also like what 145 00:05:47,267 --> 00:05:48,800 introduction and also like what is pride mean for you And and 146 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,867 is pride mean for you And and in this moment I mean like I 147 00:05:50,867 --> 00:05:51,800 in this moment I mean like I said, I don’t think this is 148 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:52,901 said, I don’t think this is just be something we’re 149 00:05:52,901 --> 00:05:54,401 just be something we’re limiting to just the month of 150 00:05:54,401 --> 00:05:56,133 limiting to just the month of June, even though it’s probably 151 00:05:56,133 --> 00:05:58,101 June, even though it’s probably except for the pandemic a good 152 00:05:58,101 --> 00:06:01,433 except for the pandemic a good month. But what does pride mean 153 00:06:01,433 --> 00:06:02,900 month. But what does pride mean for you and how we’re 154 00:06:02,900 --> 00:06:04,867 for you and how we’re reflecting and engaging right 155 00:06:04,867 --> 00:06:07,667 reflecting and engaging right now. So my name is Faris. And 156 00:06:07,667 --> 00:06:10,667 now. So my name is Faris. And I’m a local activist and 157 00:06:10,667 --> 00:06:13,867 I’m a local activist and advocate in the evening during 158 00:06:13,867 --> 00:06:15,633 advocate in the evening during the day of multi million dollar 159 00:06:15,633 --> 00:06:17,400 the day of multi million dollar producing real estate broker at 160 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,000 producing real estate broker at Atlanta Fine Homes Sotheby’s 161 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,533 Atlanta Fine Homes Sotheby’s International Realty I sit on 162 00:06:21,533 --> 00:06:23,166 International Realty I sit on the LGBTQ advisory board to the 163 00:06:23,166 --> 00:06:25,068 the LGBTQ advisory board to the Mayor of Atlanta, Keisha Lance 164 00:06:25,068 --> 00:06:26,934 Mayor of Atlanta, Keisha Lance Bottoms and I am the Affairs 165 00:06:26,934 --> 00:06:28,801 Bottoms and I am the Affairs coach here there. I was also 166 00:06:28,801 --> 00:06:31,101 coach here there. I was also honored to be one of your 167 00:06:31,101 --> 00:06:32,800 honored to be one of your fiftieth anniversary Pride 168 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,901 fiftieth anniversary Pride Grand Marshals last year, so 169 00:06:34,901 --> 00:06:36,000 Grand Marshals last year, so that’s just a little bit about 170 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,034 that’s just a little bit about myself, but as far as what 171 00:06:37,034 --> 00:06:40,000 myself, but as far as what pride means to me following up 172 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:40,833 pride means to me following up what Renita just said it’s 173 00:06:40,833 --> 00:06:46,334 what Renita just said it’s living your. Life authentically 174 00:06:46,334 --> 00:06:48,501 living your. Life authentically Currently what pride means to 175 00:06:48,501 --> 00:06:52,500 Currently what pride means to me is centering TNC Black’s 176 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:54,800 me is centering TNC Black’s voices and centering the 177 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:55,600 voices and centering the movement that we’re seeing 178 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,700 movement that we’re seeing around the country as far as 179 00:06:57,700 --> 00:06:59,367 around the country as far as the intersections of what it’s 180 00:06:59,367 --> 00:07:02,467 the intersections of what it’s like to be a trans woman of 181 00:07:02,467 --> 00:07:04,767 like to be a trans woman of color or a black trans woman 182 00:07:04,767 --> 00:07:07,301 color or a black trans woman along with black lives matter 183 00:07:07,301 --> 00:07:09,333 along with black lives matter really been working as much as 184 00:07:09,333 --> 00:07:12,700 really been working as much as I can to Center the women 185 00:07:12,700 --> 00:07:14,166 I can to Center the women who’ve been doing the work for 186 00:07:14,166 --> 00:07:16,166 who’ve been doing the work for generations as you said, pride 187 00:07:16,166 --> 00:07:18,000 generations as you said, pride was created by the general 188 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,967 was created by the general riots, Marsha P Johnson and 189 00:07:19,967 --> 00:07:24,467 riots, Marsha P Johnson and Sylvia Rivera created. The 190 00:07:24,467 --> 00:07:26,333 Sylvia Rivera created. The movement that we now see as 191 00:07:26,333 --> 00:07:31,468 movement that we now see as known as pride so proud to be 192 00:07:31,468 --> 00:07:33,466 known as pride so proud to be assisting queerer Trans Black 193 00:07:33,466 --> 00:07:35,967 assisting queerer Trans Black led organizations in any way I 194 00:07:35,967 --> 00:07:39,034 led organizations in any way I can. 195 00:07:41,634 --> 00:07:45,867 Awesome. Thank you and so this 196 00:07:45,867 --> 00:07:46,634 Awesome. Thank you and so this opening it up just the two of 197 00:07:46,634 --> 00:07:48,266 opening it up just the two of you So Renita just going back 198 00:07:48,266 --> 00:07:51,601 you So Renita just going back to you just real quickly and 199 00:07:51,601 --> 00:07:54,566 to you just real quickly and thinking about you know when 200 00:07:54,566 --> 00:07:56,301 thinking about you know when did you just this week as an 201 00:07:56,301 --> 00:08:00,534 did you just this week as an Organization? we try to engage 202 00:08:00,534 --> 00:08:04,200 Organization? we try to engage and build and work with young 203 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,034 and build and work with young girls and women between six and 204 00:08:06,034 --> 00:08:08,000 girls and women between six and twelfth grade and those can 205 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,234 twelfth grade and those can already be like challenging 206 00:08:10,234 --> 00:08:12,034 already be like challenging times for us, you know growing 207 00:08:12,034 --> 00:08:17,333 times for us, you know growing up so when did you just 208 00:08:17,333 --> 00:08:17,901 up so when did you just thinking about your own just 209 00:08:17,901 --> 00:08:20,501 thinking about your own just reflection and your own like 210 00:08:20,501 --> 00:08:21,401 reflection and your own like coming to yourself like when 211 00:08:21,401 --> 00:08:22,934 coming to yourself like when did you first really feel like 212 00:08:22,934 --> 00:08:26,068 did you first really feel like you were you were able to show? 213 00:08:26,068 --> 00:08:28,766 you were you were able to show? In political spaces as your 214 00:08:28,766 --> 00:08:32,767 In political spaces as your full complete self. So I think 215 00:08:32,767 --> 00:08:34,567 full complete self. So I think that question is two part of 216 00:08:34,567 --> 00:08:37,767 that question is two part of showing up in spaces and 217 00:08:37,767 --> 00:08:38,700 showing up in spaces and activism comes from the way 218 00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:42,933 activism comes from the way that I was raised in my my dad 219 00:08:42,933 --> 00:08:45,200 that I was raised in my my dad was a pastor, he’s no longer 220 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,167 was a pastor, he’s no longer with us, but that’s why I say 221 00:08:47,167 --> 00:08:49,966 with us, but that’s why I say it was but my dad was a pastor 222 00:08:49,966 --> 00:08:51,733 it was but my dad was a pastor but he was one of those pastors 223 00:08:51,733 --> 00:08:53,966 but he was one of those pastors who believe that his work did 224 00:08:53,966 --> 00:08:56,966 who believe that his work did not stop just on Sundays. he 225 00:08:56,966 --> 00:09:00,101 not stop just on Sundays. he was always involved with the 226 00:09:00,101 --> 00:09:03,200 was always involved with the SCLC and NAACP and community 227 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:03,967 SCLC and NAACP and community organizations, and he was 228 00:09:03,967 --> 00:09:05,267 organizations, and he was somebody who would not take no 229 00:09:05,267 --> 00:09:06,534 somebody who would not take no when it came to Justice issues 230 00:09:06,534 --> 00:09:11,001 when it came to Justice issues for black people. And so having 231 00:09:11,001 --> 00:09:13,967 for black people. And so having grown up with that spirit right 232 00:09:13,967 --> 00:09:14,733 grown up with that spirit right there in the House and that 233 00:09:14,733 --> 00:09:18,501 there in the House and that excellent example, that is what 234 00:09:18,501 --> 00:09:19,267 excellent example, that is what certainly led me to 235 00:09:19,267 --> 00:09:21,200 certainly led me to understanding why we need to 236 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,934 understanding why we need to stand up for the issues that we 237 00:09:23,934 --> 00:09:25,734 stand up for the issues that we care about so I would say that 238 00:09:25,734 --> 00:09:27,633 care about so I would say that that really laid the foundation 239 00:09:27,633 --> 00:09:29,667 that really laid the foundation for me as far as being able to 240 00:09:29,667 --> 00:09:32,901 for me as far as being able to live in my full authentic self 241 00:09:32,901 --> 00:09:36,167 live in my full authentic self I came out in 2017 and I do 242 00:09:36,167 --> 00:09:39,401 I came out in 2017 and I do think that being elected I know 243 00:09:39,401 --> 00:09:40,267 think that being elected I know that being elected actually 244 00:09:40,267 --> 00:09:43,434 that being elected actually helped me to live in my full 245 00:09:43,434 --> 00:09:44,533 helped me to live in my full authentic self. and I say that 246 00:09:44,533 --> 00:09:48,067 authentic self. and I say that because when you are. 247 00:09:48,533 --> 00:09:51,567 People really tend to get 248 00:09:51,567 --> 00:09:53,501 People really tend to get involved in knowing you as a 249 00:09:53,501 --> 00:09:54,401 involved in knowing you as a person because you’re 250 00:09:54,401 --> 00:09:56,467 person because you’re representing so many people 251 00:09:56,467 --> 00:09:58,468 representing so many people State House representatives 252 00:09:58,468 --> 00:10:00,368 State House representatives represent 55000 people. That’s 253 00:10:00,368 --> 00:10:02,233 represent 55000 people. That’s a lot of folks a lot of folks 254 00:10:02,233 --> 00:10:05,234 a lot of folks a lot of folks in different backgrounds and so 255 00:10:05,234 --> 00:10:06,767 in different backgrounds and so really being in this position, 256 00:10:06,767 --> 00:10:08,300 really being in this position, I really understood how 257 00:10:08,300 --> 00:10:09,334 I really understood how important visibility was, and 258 00:10:09,334 --> 00:10:11,434 important visibility was, and that is what ultimately 259 00:10:11,434 --> 00:10:15,267 that is what ultimately ultimately had me become much 260 00:10:15,267 --> 00:10:18,334 ultimately had me become much more visible about my 261 00:10:18,334 --> 00:10:20,967 more visible about my sexuality. So I am naturally a 262 00:10:20,967 --> 00:10:25,400 sexuality. So I am naturally a private person and but. In this 263 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,134 private person and but. In this position, really just allow me 264 00:10:27,134 --> 00:10:28,967 position, really just allow me to realize how important 265 00:10:28,967 --> 00:10:33,867 to realize how important visibility is. Thank you verda 266 00:10:33,867 --> 00:10:36,000 visibility is. Thank you verda we’ve been joined by Miss 267 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:42,266 we’ve been joined by Miss Candice Webber Candice 268 00:10:54,700 --> 00:10:58,000 So I think we lost you for a 269 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,967 So I think we lost you for a second kid and it was just a 270 00:10:59,967 --> 00:11:02,534 second kid and it was just a little a.m. went out a little 271 00:11:02,534 --> 00:11:05,534 little a.m. went out a little bit. 272 00:11:05,534 --> 00:11:05,567 bit. But 273 00:11:05,567 --> 00:11:10,434 But but so I’m gonna I’m gonna 274 00:11:10,434 --> 00:11:12,434 But but so I’m gonna I’m gonna go to far Rosa and then we’ll 275 00:11:12,434 --> 00:11:14,533 go to far Rosa and then we’ll come back to Candace. I think 276 00:11:14,533 --> 00:11:16,701 come back to Candace. I think they were you know it’s a lot 277 00:11:16,701 --> 00:11:18,801 they were you know it’s a lot going on right now. We’re still 278 00:11:18,801 --> 00:11:20,867 going on right now. We’re still in the Middle of panic and 279 00:11:20,867 --> 00:11:23,134 in the Middle of panic and quarantine everyone is still 280 00:11:23,134 --> 00:11:23,967 quarantine everyone is still streaming and doing multiple 281 00:11:23,967 --> 00:11:26,800 streaming and doing multiple things online. So I think 282 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,834 things online. So I think Candice is gonna figure out the 283 00:11:28,834 --> 00:11:30,101 Candice is gonna figure out the microphone and then we’ll go 284 00:11:30,101 --> 00:11:33,701 microphone and then we’ll go back so for Rosa the question I 285 00:11:33,701 --> 00:11:35,666 back so for Rosa the question I was asked Renita since we’re 286 00:11:35,666 --> 00:11:37,434 was asked Renita since we’re bouncing around was just 287 00:11:37,434 --> 00:11:39,800 bouncing around was just thinking about like the it just 288 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,733 thinking about like the it just also thinking about following 289 00:11:41,733 --> 00:11:43,001 also thinking about following up on something you said about 290 00:11:43,001 --> 00:11:44,134 up on something you said about the importance of visibility 291 00:11:44,134 --> 00:11:47,433 the importance of visibility like when I. 292 00:11:47,534 --> 00:11:49,301 That question about how do you 293 00:11:49,301 --> 00:11:51,267 That question about how do you show up as when did you first 294 00:11:51,267 --> 00:11:53,301 show up as when did you first feel comfortable showing up or 295 00:11:53,301 --> 00:11:55,401 feel comfortable showing up or feel like not comfortable? What 296 00:11:55,401 --> 00:11:56,667 feel like not comfortable? What did you first feel like you 297 00:11:56,667 --> 00:12:00,000 did you first feel like you could or should show up as your 298 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,167 could or should show up as your your full authentic self and 299 00:12:02,167 --> 00:12:04,200 your full authentic self and like advocacy and public 300 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,266 like advocacy and public spaces, but then also just 301 00:12:06,266 --> 00:12:08,934 spaces, but then also just thinking about what Renita said 302 00:12:08,934 --> 00:12:09,833 thinking about what Renita said about visibility and the 303 00:12:09,833 --> 00:12:13,167 about visibility and the importance of visibility like 304 00:12:13,167 --> 00:12:15,400 importance of visibility like so, I’m gonna ask you that 305 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,300 so, I’m gonna ask you that question about like when did 306 00:12:17,300 --> 00:12:20,301 question about like when did you feel first comfortable or 307 00:12:20,301 --> 00:12:22,134 you feel first comfortable or able to show up as your full 308 00:12:22,134 --> 00:12:22,934 able to show up as your full authentic self? but just 309 00:12:22,934 --> 00:12:25,067 authentic self? but just thinking about visibility? how 310 00:12:25,067 --> 00:12:29,600 thinking about visibility? how important is it to to? To be 311 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,067 important is it to to? To be visible and present in spaces 312 00:12:33,067 --> 00:12:35,833 visible and present in spaces and balancing our own personal 313 00:12:35,833 --> 00:12:38,666 and balancing our own personal like private space as well as 314 00:12:38,666 --> 00:12:39,767 like private space as well as people right cuz we’re still 315 00:12:39,767 --> 00:12:41,700 people right cuz we’re still people at the end of the day, 316 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:46,400 people at the end of the day, even though there are these 317 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,367 even though there are these opportunities and spaces for 318 00:12:48,367 --> 00:12:52,500 opportunities and spaces for dialogue so what I would say is 319 00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:55,434 dialogue so what I would say is ever since I was young. I’ve 320 00:12:55,434 --> 00:12:57,434 ever since I was young. I’ve always been somewhat of an 321 00:12:57,434 --> 00:12:58,467 always been somewhat of an empath and I guess that leads 322 00:12:58,467 --> 00:13:01,734 empath and I guess that leads to a National. I mean a natural 323 00:13:01,734 --> 00:13:05,367 to a National. I mean a natural state of advocacy in a sense 324 00:13:05,367 --> 00:13:07,267 state of advocacy in a sense because if you care about 325 00:13:07,267 --> 00:13:09,234 because if you care about people you’re always trying to 326 00:13:09,234 --> 00:13:13,267 people you’re always trying to further a movement 327 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,834 When I felt politically okay 328 00:13:18,834 --> 00:13:21,067 When I felt politically okay being my authentic self, I 329 00:13:21,067 --> 00:13:23,734 being my authentic self, I literally only came out about 330 00:13:23,734 --> 00:13:25,601 literally only came out about two years ago when you look at 331 00:13:25,601 --> 00:13:27,667 two years ago when you look at me, you might not realize that 332 00:13:27,667 --> 00:13:29,666 me, you might not realize that I’m a trans woman. I’m about 54 333 00:13:29,666 --> 00:13:33,067 I’m a trans woman. I’m about 54 and have what is known as 334 00:13:33,067 --> 00:13:34,533 and have what is known as passing privilege in the trans 335 00:13:34,533 --> 00:13:37,334 passing privilege in the trans community. So as I go out and 336 00:13:37,334 --> 00:13:40,100 community. So as I go out and show properties or in my career 337 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:42,900 show properties or in my career or in different spaces I pass 338 00:13:42,900 --> 00:13:47,667 or in different spaces I pass as a cisgendered woman and thus 339 00:13:47,667 --> 00:13:51,634 as a cisgendered woman and thus I have a level of privilege 340 00:13:51,634 --> 00:13:53,734 I have a level of privilege that some of my T GNC brothers 341 00:13:53,734 --> 00:13:54,967 that some of my T GNC brothers and sisters don’t have with 342 00:13:54,967 --> 00:13:59,700 and sisters don’t have with that being said. In a space of 343 00:13:59,700 --> 00:14:00,967 that being said. In a space of anonymity because of the 344 00:14:00,967 --> 00:14:02,501 anonymity because of the experiences that I had when I 345 00:14:02,501 --> 00:14:04,767 experiences that I had when I was younger, I was sexually 346 00:14:04,767 --> 00:14:06,767 was younger, I was sexually assaulted. I’ve been on. I’ve 347 00:14:06,767 --> 00:14:10,467 assaulted. I’ve been on. I’ve been choked out. I’ve just had 348 00:14:10,467 --> 00:14:11,934 been choked out. I’ve just had really difficult experiences 349 00:14:11,934 --> 00:14:15,534 really difficult experiences growing up which is why I lived 350 00:14:15,534 --> 00:14:17,567 growing up which is why I lived in a space of anonymity, but 351 00:14:17,567 --> 00:14:20,967 in a space of anonymity, but what actually brought me into a 352 00:14:20,967 --> 00:14:22,934 what actually brought me into a state of more political 353 00:14:22,934 --> 00:14:26,834 state of more political advocacy and being authentic to 354 00:14:26,834 --> 00:14:29,967 advocacy and being authentic to myself 355 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:33,534 I can hear you. that’s awesome. 356 00:14:33,534 --> 00:14:34,367 I can hear you. that’s awesome. okay, so we were just you were 357 00:14:34,367 --> 00:14:37,234 okay, so we were just you were talking to us about you know 358 00:14:37,234 --> 00:14:39,133 talking to us about you know you’re introducing yourself and 359 00:14:39,133 --> 00:14:41,267 you’re introducing yourself and tell us about pride and how 360 00:14:41,267 --> 00:14:44,534 tell us about pride and how that actually tells more the 361 00:14:44,534 --> 00:14:47,667 that actually tells more the story of you. 362 00:14:49,034 --> 00:14:55,400 Yes, so I am who I’m proud of 363 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,834 Yes, so I am who I’m proud of right. I am a strong believer 364 00:14:57,834 --> 00:15:00,533 right. I am a strong believer in I identity politics. I think 365 00:15:00,533 --> 00:15:03,667 in I identity politics. I think that 366 00:15:03,700 --> 00:15:05,934 anyone that tells you politics 367 00:15:05,934 --> 00:15:11,201 anyone that tells you politics should not Center or gender 368 00:15:11,201 --> 00:15:14,500 should not Center or gender your race your views on this 369 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:16,833 your race your views on this world are they’re doing 370 00:15:16,833 --> 00:15:20,000 world are they’re doing politics very wrong and I’m 371 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,900 politics very wrong and I’m proud of who I am. I’m proud of 372 00:15:21,900 --> 00:15:25,300 proud of who I am. I’m proud of my existence so the person that 373 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:29,901 my existence so the person that Candice is the. 374 00:15:31,633 --> 00:15:33,733 Woman that unapologetically 375 00:15:33,733 --> 00:15:35,700 Woman that unapologetically fights for black women and 376 00:15:35,700 --> 00:15:40,701 fights for black women and black girls to be equally 377 00:15:40,701 --> 00:15:45,833 black girls to be equally represented in all arenas 378 00:15:45,833 --> 00:15:45,933 represented in all arenas Candace Webber 379 00:15:45,933 --> 00:15:49,300 Candace Webber is the person 380 00:15:49,300 --> 00:15:54,901 Candace Webber is the person that will burn it all down for 381 00:15:54,901 --> 00:16:00,134 that will burn it all down for my black trans sisters because. 382 00:16:00,167 --> 00:16:03,666 they lived experience is 383 00:16:03,666 --> 00:16:06,933 they lived experience is equally as important to my 384 00:16:06,933 --> 00:16:08,801 equally as important to my black trans sisters are a 385 00:16:08,801 --> 00:16:11,000 black trans sisters are a reflection of me as a black 386 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,934 reflection of me as a black woman and I don’t sleep 387 00:16:15,934 --> 00:16:17,367 woman and I don’t sleep peacefully unless they’re 388 00:16:17,367 --> 00:16:21,001 peacefully unless they’re sleeping peacefully and I do 389 00:16:21,001 --> 00:16:26,067 sleeping peacefully and I do these things unapologetically I 390 00:16:26,067 --> 00:16:29,767 these things unapologetically I don’t owe anyone an explanation 391 00:16:29,767 --> 00:16:32,934 don’t owe anyone an explanation and I want black the black 392 00:16:32,934 --> 00:16:35,067 and I want black the black girls to walk in that truth. We 393 00:16:35,067 --> 00:16:37,901 girls to walk in that truth. We get to be who we are without an 394 00:16:37,901 --> 00:16:43,767 get to be who we are without an apology or an explanation. 395 00:16:49,367 --> 00:16:54,367 You I love it so this Candace 396 00:16:54,367 --> 00:16:55,167 You I love it so this Candace I’ll stick with you for a 397 00:16:55,167 --> 00:16:56,433 I’ll stick with you for a little bit longer. So we’re 398 00:16:56,433 --> 00:16:59,901 little bit longer. So we’re just talking about you know 399 00:16:59,901 --> 00:17:00,667 just talking about you know when did you first feel 400 00:17:00,667 --> 00:17:02,367 when did you first feel comfortable? be your full 401 00:17:02,367 --> 00:17:05,867 comfortable? be your full authentic self you know showing 402 00:17:05,867 --> 00:17:08,000 authentic self you know showing up in political and advocacy 403 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,701 up in political and advocacy spaces, and then we’re just 404 00:17:09,701 --> 00:17:13,100 spaces, and then we’re just talking about the importance of 405 00:17:13,100 --> 00:17:16,034 talking about the importance of visibility and how important is 406 00:17:16,034 --> 00:17:18,367 visibility and how important is it to have folks who are you 407 00:17:18,367 --> 00:17:21,834 it to have folks who are you know themselves and proud 408 00:17:21,834 --> 00:17:25,034 know themselves and proud visibly in spaces? regardless 409 00:17:25,034 --> 00:17:27,601 visibly in spaces? regardless of what the issue we’re talking 410 00:17:27,601 --> 00:17:30,733 of what the issue we’re talking about. 411 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,333 You’re kind of breaking up the 412 00:17:37,333 --> 00:17:40,300 You’re kind of breaking up the directed towards me. I’m sorry. 413 00:17:40,300 --> 00:17:42,267 directed towards me. I’m sorry. yes. Sorry, yes, Candice. I’m 414 00:17:42,267 --> 00:17:43,967 yes. Sorry, yes, Candice. I’m going back to you just because 415 00:17:43,967 --> 00:17:46,434 going back to you just because I skipped you with the other 416 00:17:46,434 --> 00:17:52,567 I skipped you with the other question. Okay. 417 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,167 so can you just repeat that 418 00:17:56,167 --> 00:17:58,867 so can you just repeat that first part? I’m really sorry. 419 00:17:58,867 --> 00:18:01,034 first part? I’m really sorry. No. no no you’re totally fine. 420 00:18:01,034 --> 00:18:05,034 No. no no you’re totally fine. so just in thinking about just 421 00:18:05,034 --> 00:18:06,967 so just in thinking about just when where Wendy, When can you 422 00:18:06,967 --> 00:18:09,534 when where Wendy, When can you recall like this feeling like 423 00:18:09,534 --> 00:18:12,234 recall like this feeling like you’re full authentic self and 424 00:18:12,234 --> 00:18:14,966 you’re full authentic self and being able to show up as your 425 00:18:14,966 --> 00:18:15,966 being able to show up as your authentic self and political 426 00:18:15,966 --> 00:18:19,168 authentic self and political and advocacy spaces. and then 427 00:18:19,168 --> 00:18:21,434 and advocacy spaces. and then also I’ll just picking up on 428 00:18:21,434 --> 00:18:22,667 also I’ll just picking up on something, Renata said about 429 00:18:22,667 --> 00:18:25,134 something, Renata said about just the importance of 430 00:18:25,134 --> 00:18:28,234 just the importance of visibility. 431 00:18:29,834 --> 00:18:36,500 Okay, I think that I got to the 432 00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:39,967 Okay, I think that I got to the point where and this was years 433 00:18:39,967 --> 00:18:44,000 point where and this was years back I got to the point where I 434 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:50,867 back I got to the point where I just didn’t Goes. 435 00:18:50,900 --> 00:18:54,200 Being a black transgender woman 436 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,500 Being a black transgender woman doesn’t give. enough credit 437 00:18:57,500 --> 00:19:05,501 doesn’t give. enough credit right. we do not get the 438 00:19:05,501 --> 00:19:08,767 right. we do not get the accolades for being the 439 00:19:08,767 --> 00:19:10,733 accolades for being the Guardians of America’s 440 00:19:10,733 --> 00:19:13,267 Guardians of America’s humanity, but that is certainly 441 00:19:13,267 --> 00:19:15,434 humanity, but that is certainly who we are. That is what we 442 00:19:15,434 --> 00:19:18,901 who we are. That is what we have always done. 443 00:19:20,101 --> 00:19:23,301 in any place that my 444 00:19:23,301 --> 00:19:23,867 in any place that my transgender black body like 445 00:19:23,867 --> 00:19:26,901 transgender black body like them. 446 00:19:27,901 --> 00:19:31,867 It is expected welcomed and 447 00:19:31,867 --> 00:19:33,701 It is expected welcomed and respected. I’m not going 448 00:19:33,701 --> 00:19:38,068 respected. I’m not going without my sister because 449 00:19:38,068 --> 00:19:40,067 without my sister because representation is important and 450 00:19:40,067 --> 00:19:46,333 representation is important and we when we look at. the the 451 00:19:46,333 --> 00:19:48,834 we when we look at. the the maltreatment of the American 452 00:19:48,834 --> 00:19:51,834 maltreatment of the American Negro when it comes to 453 00:19:51,834 --> 00:19:53,766 Negro when it comes to representation, I mean they let 454 00:19:53,766 --> 00:19:58,301 representation, I mean they let Blackman come to the table. and 455 00:19:58,301 --> 00:20:00,067 Blackman come to the table. and they’re still killing Black 456 00:20:00,067 --> 00:20:02,134 they’re still killing Black men, Americas still killing 457 00:20:02,134 --> 00:20:05,333 men, Americas still killing black men so. 458 00:20:06,668 --> 00:20:08,801 In regards to representation, 459 00:20:08,801 --> 00:20:10,501 In regards to representation, I’m gonna build my own and I’m 460 00:20:10,501 --> 00:20:13,766 I’m gonna build my own and I’m gonna make sure that trans 461 00:20:13,766 --> 00:20:17,067 gonna make sure that trans women are sitting right next to 462 00:20:17,067 --> 00:20:21,501 women are sitting right next to me. I’m gonna open doors that 463 00:20:21,501 --> 00:20:24,633 me. I’m gonna open doors that way. 464 00:20:27,134 --> 00:20:30,667 You Candice appreciate you so 465 00:20:30,667 --> 00:20:32,667 You Candice appreciate you so back to Renata and just 466 00:20:32,667 --> 00:20:35,633 back to Renata and just thinking about like the types 467 00:20:35,633 --> 00:20:37,167 thinking about like the types of organizing we’re seeing I 468 00:20:37,167 --> 00:20:39,566 of organizing we’re seeing I mean you just finished up a 469 00:20:39,566 --> 00:20:42,600 mean you just finished up a very I I hope it’s not you know 470 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,801 very I I hope it’s not you know we’re going to say intense 471 00:20:44,801 --> 00:20:47,367 we’re going to say intense second half of the legislative 472 00:20:47,367 --> 00:20:48,133 second half of the legislative cycle considering the break 473 00:20:48,133 --> 00:20:50,201 cycle considering the break that happened. He just you 474 00:20:50,201 --> 00:20:52,634 that happened. He just you know, talk to me about some of 475 00:20:52,634 --> 00:20:54,467 know, talk to me about some of the some of the issues or 476 00:20:54,467 --> 00:20:56,668 the some of the issues or things that you think that 477 00:20:56,668 --> 00:20:58,700 things that you think that groups who are engaging in you 478 00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:01,767 groups who are engaging in you know, advocacy and policy work 479 00:21:01,767 --> 00:21:03,967 know, advocacy and policy work should be really considering 480 00:21:03,967 --> 00:21:04,900 should be really considering when they’re thinking about you 481 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:07,901 when they’re thinking about you know. 482 00:21:09,534 --> 00:21:11,001 Or just what are some of the 483 00:21:11,001 --> 00:21:12,800 Or just what are some of the issues and challenges that are 484 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,367 issues and challenges that are I think you will excuse me 485 00:21:15,367 --> 00:21:17,834 I think you will excuse me guys. Do you think our most 486 00:21:17,834 --> 00:21:21,134 guys. Do you think our most pressing especially right now 487 00:21:21,134 --> 00:21:24,167 pressing especially right now for you know LGBTQIA people of 488 00:21:24,167 --> 00:21:27,367 for you know LGBTQIA people of color while I would say one 489 00:21:27,367 --> 00:21:29,334 color while I would say one issue overall that I think does 490 00:21:29,334 --> 00:21:30,267 issue overall that I think does not get enough focus is that 491 00:21:30,267 --> 00:21:32,400 not get enough focus is that those who are elected really 492 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,300 those who are elected really need to understand that it’s 493 00:21:33,300 --> 00:21:36,333 need to understand that it’s not good enough to just propose 494 00:21:36,333 --> 00:21:37,734 not good enough to just propose policies and assume that they 495 00:21:37,734 --> 00:21:39,667 policies and assume that they will be good for everybody. We 496 00:21:39,667 --> 00:21:41,367 will be good for everybody. We need to actively work to make 497 00:21:41,367 --> 00:21:42,533 need to actively work to make sure that we are making sure 498 00:21:42,533 --> 00:21:47,966 sure that we are making sure within. That we are accounting 499 00:21:47,966 --> 00:21:49,866 within. That we are accounting for and putting things in 500 00:21:49,866 --> 00:21:51,967 for and putting things in legislation that will you know, 501 00:21:51,967 --> 00:21:54,334 legislation that will you know, make sure that we are not 502 00:21:54,334 --> 00:21:56,101 make sure that we are not creating future problems for 503 00:21:56,101 --> 00:21:56,900 creating future problems for black and Brown folks, Black 504 00:21:56,900 --> 00:21:59,567 black and Brown folks, Black and Brown ??? folks for anybody 505 00:21:59,567 --> 00:22:01,234 and Brown ??? folks for anybody in the future and so too many 506 00:22:01,234 --> 00:22:03,334 in the future and so too many times, I still see that because 507 00:22:03,334 --> 00:22:05,401 times, I still see that because our government is still largely 508 00:22:05,401 --> 00:22:08,334 our government is still largely White men. that’s the majority 509 00:22:08,334 --> 00:22:10,200 White men. that’s the majority of who serves at every level of 510 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,566 of who serves at every level of government. We still see 511 00:22:11,566 --> 00:22:15,334 government. We still see policies that don’t account for 512 00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:17,301 policies that don’t account for bias that don’t account for 513 00:22:17,301 --> 00:22:19,567 bias that don’t account for what it’s like to be anything 514 00:22:19,567 --> 00:22:20,433 what it’s like to be anything other than a White man living 515 00:22:20,433 --> 00:22:24,301 other than a White man living in this country. I think that 516 00:22:24,301 --> 00:22:27,101 in this country. I think that that is really important the 517 00:22:27,101 --> 00:22:28,000 that is really important the issues that we’re seeing right 518 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,734 issues that we’re seeing right now that all have to do with 519 00:22:29,734 --> 00:22:32,467 now that all have to do with criminal Justice reform and the 520 00:22:32,467 --> 00:22:34,534 criminal Justice reform and the issues that we see happening 521 00:22:34,534 --> 00:22:36,534 issues that we see happening around economic Justice. Those 522 00:22:36,534 --> 00:22:38,234 around economic Justice. Those issues are really important 523 00:22:38,234 --> 00:22:40,267 issues are really important because we know that for any 524 00:22:40,267 --> 00:22:42,867 because we know that for any issue that you look at you can 525 00:22:42,867 --> 00:22:46,500 issue that you look at you can see that black folks are 526 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:47,934 see that black folks are disproportionately impacted. 527 00:22:47,934 --> 00:22:49,701 disproportionately impacted. ??? folks are 528 00:22:49,701 --> 00:22:50,267 ??? folks are disproportionately impacted in 529 00:22:50,267 --> 00:22:51,767 disproportionately impacted in many of the systems that we 530 00:22:51,767 --> 00:22:53,500 many of the systems that we have today and because that 531 00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:56,500 have today and because that work has not been done to go in 532 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:57,634 work has not been done to go in and if you will provide 533 00:22:57,634 --> 00:23:01,600 and if you will provide preparation. What has been done 534 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,733 preparation. What has been done in the past as well as build 535 00:23:03,733 --> 00:23:05,534 in the past as well as build into the future? what we need 536 00:23:05,534 --> 00:23:07,633 into the future? what we need for everyone to experience 537 00:23:07,633 --> 00:23:10,800 for everyone to experience equity. I think that is the 538 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,700 equity. I think that is the overarching issue so it’s it is 539 00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:15,134 overarching issue so it’s it is difficult. every session is 540 00:23:15,134 --> 00:23:16,000 difficult. every session is intense because the level of 541 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,000 intense because the level of anti blackness in this country 542 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,268 anti blackness in this country is very hard to push for Color 543 00:23:22,268 --> 00:23:24,266 is very hard to push for Color right because it’s the both and 544 00:23:24,266 --> 00:23:26,733 right because it’s the both and right, not just I mean you can 545 00:23:26,733 --> 00:23:28,267 right, not just I mean you can have people who are White and 546 00:23:28,267 --> 00:23:31,633 have people who are White and LGBTQ and they have the best of 547 00:23:31,633 --> 00:23:33,233 LGBTQ and they have the best of intentions, but they cannot 548 00:23:33,233 --> 00:23:35,101 intentions, but they cannot necessarily adequately reflect 549 00:23:35,101 --> 00:23:38,134 necessarily adequately reflect those experiences of you know, 550 00:23:38,134 --> 00:23:40,301 those experiences of you know, ??? folks of color. so what 551 00:23:40,301 --> 00:23:42,200 ??? folks of color. so what should groups and organizations 552 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,934 should groups and organizations do to make sure that they are 553 00:23:43,934 --> 00:23:48,266 do to make sure that they are actually capturing the the 554 00:23:48,266 --> 00:23:49,067 actually capturing the the experiences of like you know, 555 00:23:49,067 --> 00:23:52,000 experiences of like you know, ??? people trans people of 556 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,500 ??? people trans people of color like that to make sure 557 00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:55,434 color like that to make sure that those people’s experiences 558 00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:56,600 that those people’s experiences are actually reflected and 559 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,267 are actually reflected and their agenda setting and what 560 00:23:57,267 --> 00:24:01,367 their agenda setting and what they. Going forward well number 561 00:24:01,367 --> 00:24:03,800 they. Going forward well number one, hire, hire black and Brown 562 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,600 one, hire, hire black and Brown ??? folks in your leadership 563 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:06,500 ??? folks in your leadership and don’t just hire them to be 564 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:08,867 and don’t just hire them to be figure heads. don’t just hire 565 00:24:08,867 --> 00:24:10,567 figure heads. don’t just hire them so you can ignore them. 566 00:24:10,567 --> 00:24:11,434 them so you can ignore them. You need to hire them and then 567 00:24:11,434 --> 00:24:13,967 You need to hire them and then listen to them and if your 568 00:24:13,967 --> 00:24:15,734 listen to them and if your Organization is not willing to 569 00:24:15,734 --> 00:24:18,134 Organization is not willing to do that, then you should not be 570 00:24:18,134 --> 00:24:21,201 do that, then you should not be the loudest voice in the room 571 00:24:21,201 --> 00:24:23,301 the loudest voice in the room you need to follow, black and 572 00:24:23,301 --> 00:24:24,700 you need to follow, black and Brown crew leaders, and it’s 573 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:26,467 Brown crew leaders, and it’s just so important because we 574 00:24:26,467 --> 00:24:28,101 just so important because we live at the intersection of all 575 00:24:28,101 --> 00:24:30,000 live at the intersection of all of these identities and that’s 576 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,567 of these identities and that’s why I talk about why it’s so 577 00:24:31,567 --> 00:24:34,401 why I talk about why it’s so important for black for black 578 00:24:34,401 --> 00:24:34,833 important for black for black ??? women specifically in 579 00:24:34,833 --> 00:24:40,734 ??? women specifically in black. To be elected because we 580 00:24:40,734 --> 00:24:42,734 black. To be elected because we because we live in the 581 00:24:42,734 --> 00:24:44,200 because we live in the intersection of so many 582 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,033 intersection of so many identities, we are able to see 583 00:24:45,033 --> 00:24:47,534 identities, we are able to see the gaps in policy that will 584 00:24:47,534 --> 00:24:50,367 the gaps in policy that will allow. in all communities to 585 00:24:50,367 --> 00:24:52,667 allow. in all communities to follow through the cracks. So 586 00:24:52,667 --> 00:24:53,601 follow through the cracks. So that’s what I think is very, 587 00:24:53,601 --> 00:24:55,466 that’s what I think is very, very important and I would say 588 00:24:55,466 --> 00:24:58,301 very important and I would say in this time, people need to 589 00:24:58,301 --> 00:25:00,533 in this time, people need to really just if you are not as 590 00:25:00,533 --> 00:25:03,534 really just if you are not as you mentioned before if you are 591 00:25:03,534 --> 00:25:04,234 you mentioned before if you are White and queerer, that is very 592 00:25:04,234 --> 00:25:05,901 White and queerer, that is very different than being black and 593 00:25:05,901 --> 00:25:07,600 different than being black and ??? and you should not be the 594 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,734 ??? and you should not be the loudest voice in this 595 00:25:09,734 --> 00:25:11,434 loudest voice in this conversation, you need to 596 00:25:11,434 --> 00:25:13,267 conversation, you need to listen to black and Brown ??? 597 00:25:13,267 --> 00:25:14,133 listen to black and Brown ??? leaders and follow their lead 598 00:25:14,133 --> 00:25:17,934 leaders and follow their lead and ask them and. What they are 599 00:25:17,934 --> 00:25:21,800 and ask them and. What they are asking you to do. Thank you 600 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,933 asking you to do. Thank you Renita for that I know when we 601 00:25:23,933 --> 00:25:26,966 Renita for that I know when we were first talking about when I 602 00:25:26,966 --> 00:25:28,967 were first talking about when I invited you to this panel that 603 00:25:28,967 --> 00:25:30,801 invited you to this panel that you expressed some trepidation 604 00:25:30,801 --> 00:25:32,100 you expressed some trepidation or concern just making sure 605 00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:33,133 or concern just making sure that you weren’t taking up 606 00:25:33,133 --> 00:25:36,067 that you weren’t taking up space and I like I’m naming 607 00:25:36,067 --> 00:25:38,067 space and I like I’m naming that only because I really do 608 00:25:38,067 --> 00:25:40,601 that only because I really do appreciate the fact that you 609 00:25:40,601 --> 00:25:41,601 appreciate the fact that you checked in with me to make sure 610 00:25:41,601 --> 00:25:43,433 checked in with me to make sure it wasn’t appropriate for me to 611 00:25:43,433 --> 00:25:46,601 it wasn’t appropriate for me to step in the space and speak and 612 00:25:46,601 --> 00:25:48,101 step in the space and speak and what I said to you was like no. 613 00:25:48,101 --> 00:25:51,501 what I said to you was like no. I really do I appreciate and 614 00:25:51,501 --> 00:25:53,667 I really do I appreciate and honor that, but I also really 615 00:25:53,667 --> 00:25:56,468 honor that, but I also really appreciate you as an advocate 616 00:25:56,468 --> 00:25:58,567 appreciate you as an advocate in your voice in these spaces. 617 00:25:58,567 --> 00:25:59,600 in your voice in these spaces. Besides you know I’m trying to 618 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,134 Besides you know I’m trying to get on the cooking lessons but 619 00:26:01,134 --> 00:26:04,333 get on the cooking lessons but seriously. 620 00:26:05,467 --> 00:26:07,234 just follow up with this point 621 00:26:07,234 --> 00:26:10,301 just follow up with this point about like how people are like 622 00:26:10,301 --> 00:26:11,267 about like how people are like brought into spaces and rooms 623 00:26:11,267 --> 00:26:13,133 brought into spaces and rooms that can you just talk to me a 624 00:26:13,133 --> 00:26:14,667 that can you just talk to me a little bit. We did talk about 625 00:26:14,667 --> 00:26:17,600 little bit. We did talk about how you particularly try to use 626 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,734 how you particularly try to use you know your access and 627 00:26:19,734 --> 00:26:21,400 you know your access and privilege but like the 628 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,834 privilege but like the strategies just building on 629 00:26:22,834 --> 00:26:24,801 strategies just building on that about like how 630 00:26:24,801 --> 00:26:26,233 that about like how organizations do need to be 631 00:26:26,233 --> 00:26:28,101 organizations do need to be kind of that maybe more 632 00:26:28,101 --> 00:26:31,366 kind of that maybe more traditional legacy LGBTQ 633 00:26:31,366 --> 00:26:32,467 traditional legacy LGBTQ organizations in terms of how 634 00:26:32,467 --> 00:26:34,901 organizations in terms of how they show up and work with 635 00:26:34,901 --> 00:26:36,701 they show up and work with black and Brown communities and 636 00:26:36,701 --> 00:26:37,366 black and Brown communities and black and Brown queerer folks 637 00:26:37,366 --> 00:26:39,834 black and Brown queerer folks in particular, so one of the 638 00:26:39,834 --> 00:26:42,400 in particular, so one of the things that I’ve noticed over. 639 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,300 things that I’ve noticed over. Few weeks and some of you 640 00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:45,967 Few weeks and some of you follow me on Facebook or things 641 00:26:45,967 --> 00:26:48,967 follow me on Facebook or things like that is I do all sorts of 642 00:26:48,967 --> 00:26:50,833 like that is I do all sorts of different advocacy activism 643 00:26:50,833 --> 00:26:54,034 different advocacy activism speaks on panels raise money. 644 00:26:54,034 --> 00:26:57,034 speaks on panels raise money. I’ve been doing this Rose’s 645 00:26:57,034 --> 00:26:57,901 I’ve been doing this Rose’s Corona kitchen thing for the 646 00:26:57,901 --> 00:27:01,000 Corona kitchen thing for the last about five or six weeks, 647 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,901 last about five or six weeks, and in the first three weeks we 648 00:27:02,901 --> 00:27:04,700 and in the first three weeks we ended up raising something like 649 00:27:04,700 --> 00:27:06,000 ended up raising something like $3000 for different 650 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,534 $3000 for different organizations, many of which 651 00:27:07,534 --> 00:27:11,000 organizations, many of which were black trans ??? 652 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,901 were black trans ??? organizations. So that’s one of 653 00:27:12,901 --> 00:27:14,334 organizations. So that’s one of the ways that you can support 654 00:27:14,334 --> 00:27:17,233 the ways that you can support as an ally again to follow up 655 00:27:17,233 --> 00:27:19,800 as an ally again to follow up off of your question. we had a. 656 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,901 off of your question. we had a. Regarding whether or not, I was 657 00:27:21,901 --> 00:27:23,234 Regarding whether or not, I was the appropriate person to be on 658 00:27:23,234 --> 00:27:24,800 the appropriate person to be on this panel because I wanted to 659 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,934 this panel because I wanted to make sure that I was not 660 00:27:25,934 --> 00:27:26,734 make sure that I was not centering myself in a 661 00:27:26,734 --> 00:27:29,034 centering myself in a conversation that needed to be 662 00:27:29,034 --> 00:27:31,933 conversation that needed to be by somebody who was black and 663 00:27:31,933 --> 00:27:34,834 by somebody who was black and trans because I sit in a space 664 00:27:34,834 --> 00:27:36,534 trans because I sit in a space of privilege, I have 665 00:27:36,534 --> 00:27:38,900 of privilege, I have socioeconomic privilege, I have 666 00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:41,501 socioeconomic privilege, I have racial privilege again passing 667 00:27:41,501 --> 00:27:45,934 racial privilege again passing privilege so many different 668 00:27:45,934 --> 00:27:47,900 privilege so many different Candace if we still have 669 00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:54,267 Candace if we still have canvass with us just curious. 670 00:27:54,267 --> 00:27:57,967 canvass with us just curious. if we hi my friend, yeah cuz I 671 00:27:57,967 --> 00:28:00,101 if we hi my friend, yeah cuz I can’t see everyone it’s it’s 672 00:28:00,101 --> 00:28:01,733 can’t see everyone it’s it’s pretty cool. You know the way 673 00:28:01,733 --> 00:28:04,766 pretty cool. You know the way we have this set up but with 674 00:28:04,766 --> 00:28:06,501 we have this set up but with canvas, I’m just thinking about 675 00:28:06,501 --> 00:28:07,533 canvas, I’m just thinking about you know a lot of the 676 00:28:07,533 --> 00:28:09,901 you know a lot of the organizing work that you do, 677 00:28:09,901 --> 00:28:11,934 organizing work that you do, particularly in Houston, right 678 00:28:11,934 --> 00:28:14,967 particularly in Houston, right is centered with black folks 679 00:28:14,967 --> 00:28:16,833 is centered with black folks and black women in particular 680 00:28:16,833 --> 00:28:19,133 and black women in particular and just I know that you have 681 00:28:19,133 --> 00:28:20,900 and just I know that you have had to deal with like some of 682 00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:21,901 had to deal with like some of these issues and challenges. so 683 00:28:21,901 --> 00:28:25,900 these issues and challenges. so just thinking about the. Like 684 00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:26,833 just thinking about the. Like what are some issues and 685 00:28:26,833 --> 00:28:27,967 what are some issues and challenges that you feel are 686 00:28:27,967 --> 00:28:31,200 challenges that you feel are most pressing you know when 687 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:31,801 most pressing you know when you’re thinking about your 688 00:28:31,801 --> 00:28:34,400 you’re thinking about your community right now that should 689 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,001 community right now that should be on people’s radar. 690 00:28:40,468 --> 00:28:45,367 I keep at. one of the most 691 00:28:45,367 --> 00:28:48,733 I keep at. one of the most important things is to for 692 00:28:48,733 --> 00:28:52,434 important things is to for everyone to become educated 693 00:28:52,434 --> 00:28:55,034 everyone to become educated about the black struggle, 694 00:28:55,034 --> 00:28:56,867 about the black struggle, You’re not assume that you know 695 00:28:56,867 --> 00:28:58,700 You’re not assume that you know anything if you’re a non-black 696 00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:00,467 anything if you’re a non-black person gonna assume that you 697 00:29:00,467 --> 00:29:02,567 person gonna assume that you know anything at all you have 698 00:29:02,567 --> 00:29:06,733 know anything at all you have not lived this experience and 699 00:29:06,733 --> 00:29:09,933 not lived this experience and so you have nothing to draw on 700 00:29:09,933 --> 00:29:12,533 so you have nothing to draw on all you are in a position to 701 00:29:12,533 --> 00:29:16,734 all you are in a position to learn take that seriously sit 702 00:29:16,734 --> 00:29:20,467 learn take that seriously sit down and learn 703 00:29:21,734 --> 00:29:24,967 I cannot echo enough how much 704 00:29:24,967 --> 00:29:26,601 I cannot echo enough how much my sisters on this panel are 705 00:29:26,601 --> 00:29:29,767 my sisters on this panel are saying these movements these 706 00:29:29,767 --> 00:29:31,901 saying these movements these issues need to be led by those 707 00:29:31,901 --> 00:29:36,700 issues need to be led by those who are affected there Cannot 708 00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:40,434 who are affected there Cannot be a conversation on police 709 00:29:40,434 --> 00:29:42,000 be a conversation on police brutality without black people 710 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,901 brutality without black people in it, they cannot be a 711 00:29:44,901 --> 00:29:50,234 in it, they cannot be a conversation on the autonomy of 712 00:29:50,234 --> 00:29:54,333 conversation on the autonomy of A- one body without trans women 713 00:29:54,333 --> 00:29:55,967 A- one body without trans women in that conversation, there 714 00:29:55,967 --> 00:30:01,134 in that conversation, there can’t be conversations about 715 00:30:01,167 --> 00:30:03,200 And and their health without 716 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,134 And and their health without limit on those panels, so it’s 717 00:30:06,134 --> 00:30:09,501 limit on those panels, so it’s very important that all of 718 00:30:09,501 --> 00:30:11,467 very important that all of these conversations be led by 719 00:30:11,467 --> 00:30:13,300 these conversations be led by those of us who are most 720 00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:18,667 those of us who are most affected I also want to say 721 00:30:18,667 --> 00:30:25,433 affected I also want to say that if you are listening if 722 00:30:25,433 --> 00:30:29,168 that if you are listening if you are doing your work if you 723 00:30:29,168 --> 00:30:32,601 you are doing your work if you are authentic in your own 724 00:30:32,601 --> 00:30:34,867 are authentic in your own experience, you will no longer 725 00:30:34,867 --> 00:30:39,434 experience, you will no longer use the word reform. Reform 726 00:30:39,434 --> 00:30:42,601 use the word reform. Reform doesn’t work for black people 727 00:30:42,601 --> 00:30:44,767 doesn’t work for black people because black people are always 728 00:30:44,767 --> 00:30:49,901 because black people are always left out of the conversation 729 00:30:49,967 --> 00:30:54,600 to use a word like reform that 730 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,867 to use a word like reform that would imply that there are some 731 00:30:56,867 --> 00:31:00,333 would imply that there are some parts of the system that can be 732 00:31:00,333 --> 00:31:05,967 parts of the system that can be salvaged. That is not true and 733 00:31:05,967 --> 00:31:08,967 salvaged. That is not true and if you don’t believe that that 734 00:31:08,967 --> 00:31:13,467 if you don’t believe that that is the truth, then I seriously 735 00:31:13,467 --> 00:31:16,567 is the truth, then I seriously suggest you. talk less and 736 00:31:16,567 --> 00:31:19,833 suggest you. talk less and listen more. 737 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,801 but this conversation has got 738 00:31:26,801 --> 00:31:32,800 but this conversation has got to be led by us. 739 00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:40,833 And in just a follow-up, just 740 00:31:40,833 --> 00:31:44,767 And in just a follow-up, just the question I had asked Renita 741 00:31:44,767 --> 00:31:47,967 the question I had asked Renita Forza about 742 00:31:48,333 --> 00:31:51,767 organizations that you know do 743 00:31:51,767 --> 00:31:53,966 organizations that you know do not traditionally work with 744 00:31:53,966 --> 00:31:57,234 not traditionally work with black members of like POC 745 00:31:57,234 --> 00:32:00,000 black members of like POC blacklisted Bipod LGBTQ spaces 746 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,433 blacklisted Bipod LGBTQ spaces and organizers like 747 00:32:06,268 --> 00:32:09,034 Understand that and then be 748 00:32:09,034 --> 00:32:11,200 Understand that and then be different and if you don’t know 749 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,934 different and if you don’t know how to be different. black and 750 00:32:14,934 --> 00:32:17,167 how to be different. black and Brown people will educate you 751 00:32:17,167 --> 00:32:19,033 Brown people will educate you and understand we are not going 752 00:32:19,033 --> 00:32:24,334 and understand we are not going to do that for free. 753 00:32:26,966 --> 00:32:29,300 Yeah, I I appreciate that last 754 00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:31,868 Yeah, I I appreciate that last part right like this idea, 755 00:32:31,868 --> 00:32:32,667 part right like this idea, particularly because we’re in 756 00:32:32,667 --> 00:32:34,734 particularly because we’re in this moment right now, like 757 00:32:34,734 --> 00:32:38,133 this moment right now, like where you know everyone’s 758 00:32:38,133 --> 00:32:39,601 where you know everyone’s scrambling regardless of 759 00:32:39,601 --> 00:32:40,433 scrambling regardless of whether they’re scrambling to 760 00:32:40,433 --> 00:32:43,101 whether they’re scrambling to get right with you know queerer 761 00:32:43,101 --> 00:32:45,401 get right with you know queerer folks of color they scramble to 762 00:32:45,401 --> 00:32:48,667 folks of color they scramble to get right with black folks 763 00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:50,567 get right with black folks color generally, everyone’s got 764 00:32:50,567 --> 00:32:51,334 color generally, everyone’s got their different rainbow flags. 765 00:32:51,334 --> 00:32:52,867 their different rainbow flags. They have a different black 766 00:32:52,867 --> 00:32:56,034 They have a different black Lives matter statements like 767 00:32:56,034 --> 00:32:59,733 Lives matter statements like how. do we get people to 768 00:32:59,733 --> 00:33:01,567 how. do we get people to understand what you’re saying 769 00:33:01,567 --> 00:33:05,034 understand what you’re saying right about like lead with your 770 00:33:05,034 --> 00:33:05,933 right about like lead with your pocketbook and don’t expect us 771 00:33:05,933 --> 00:33:07,933 pocketbook and don’t expect us to do emotional labor for free, 772 00:33:07,933 --> 00:33:10,000 to do emotional labor for free, not that we’re not trying to 773 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:10,601 not that we’re not trying to build you know with folks so 774 00:33:10,601 --> 00:33:15,267 build you know with folks so we. Trying to remake all your 775 00:33:15,267 --> 00:33:18,767 we. Trying to remake all your policy and be the token as I 776 00:33:18,767 --> 00:33:20,000 policy and be the token as I can’t remember whether it was 777 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,366 can’t remember whether it was you or Renita who said it like 778 00:33:23,366 --> 00:33:26,133 you or Renita who said it like there needs to be real systemic 779 00:33:26,133 --> 00:33:28,933 there needs to be real systemic change within somebody’s 780 00:33:28,933 --> 00:33:31,200 change within somebody’s organizing spaces. it seems 781 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,100 organizing spaces. it seems like so like I’ll get you 782 00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:35,467 like so like I’ll get you Renita first like how like how 783 00:33:35,467 --> 00:33:39,033 Renita first like how like how do we start like really driving 784 00:33:39,033 --> 00:33:44,300 do we start like really driving this point home because we also 785 00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:46,166 this point home because we also have you know younger folks 786 00:33:46,166 --> 00:33:48,133 have you know younger folks coming after us right whether 787 00:33:48,133 --> 00:33:51,001 coming after us right whether they I identify as ??? or 788 00:33:51,001 --> 00:33:52,901 they I identify as ??? or otherwise like we still need to 789 00:33:52,901 --> 00:33:55,167 otherwise like we still need to see better for like the younger 790 00:33:55,167 --> 00:33:57,166 see better for like the younger folks going forward. We’re 791 00:33:57,166 --> 00:33:59,134 folks going forward. We’re gonna be engaging in civic and 792 00:33:59,134 --> 00:34:02,600 gonna be engaging in civic and political spaces as well like. 793 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,934 political spaces as well like. We really like make sure that 794 00:34:05,934 --> 00:34:11,201 We really like make sure that we’re seeing the needle move 795 00:34:11,201 --> 00:34:13,434 we’re seeing the needle move significantly and not just more 796 00:34:13,434 --> 00:34:15,634 significantly and not just more of the same little incremental 797 00:34:15,634 --> 00:34:20,367 of the same little incremental piece by piece. 798 00:34:23,034 --> 00:34:25,201 Sorry, I was on mute too 799 00:34:25,201 --> 00:34:28,633 Sorry, I was on mute too excited to talk one thing is is 800 00:34:28,633 --> 00:34:31,633 excited to talk one thing is is that I feel like we have been 801 00:34:31,633 --> 00:34:33,634 that I feel like we have been consistently and effectively 802 00:34:33,634 --> 00:34:35,434 consistently and effectively communicating this message. It 803 00:34:35,434 --> 00:34:37,200 communicating this message. It is just these organizations 804 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,934 is just these organizations that don’t want to hear this 805 00:34:38,934 --> 00:34:40,967 that don’t want to hear this message and so unfortunately, 806 00:34:40,967 --> 00:34:43,967 message and so unfortunately, it seems like change can only 807 00:34:43,967 --> 00:34:45,967 it seems like change can only be had once these organizations 808 00:34:45,967 --> 00:34:48,000 be had once these organizations are called out publicly because 809 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,967 are called out publicly because believe you me black women 810 00:34:50,967 --> 00:34:53,201 believe you me black women black ??? women like all of us 811 00:34:53,201 --> 00:34:56,300 black ??? women like all of us have been echoing these 812 00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:57,367 have been echoing these messages consistently, but it 813 00:34:57,367 --> 00:34:59,667 messages consistently, but it feels like people can only hear 814 00:34:59,667 --> 00:35:02,200 feels like people can only hear what’s what’s in public view? 815 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,767 what’s what’s in public view? So I think that’s a large part 816 00:35:03,767 --> 00:35:06,333 So I think that’s a large part of I think it’s also as Candice 817 00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:06,967 of I think it’s also as Candice said, leading with your 818 00:35:06,967 --> 00:35:12,467 said, leading with your pocketbook. If you do not live 819 00:35:12,467 --> 00:35:14,167 pocketbook. If you do not live this experience, you cannot be 820 00:35:14,167 --> 00:35:16,068 this experience, you cannot be an expert on it, and that means 821 00:35:16,068 --> 00:35:17,767 an expert on it, and that means that you do need to be giving 822 00:35:17,767 --> 00:35:19,501 that you do need to be giving up your funding to 823 00:35:19,501 --> 00:35:21,234 up your funding to organizations who have leaders 824 00:35:21,234 --> 00:35:23,701 organizations who have leaders who can speak to these 825 00:35:23,701 --> 00:35:25,567 who can speak to these experiences. we still need to 826 00:35:25,567 --> 00:35:28,700 experiences. we still need to do a a better job of growing 827 00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:30,768 do a a better job of growing our organizations so that we 828 00:35:30,768 --> 00:35:31,467 our organizations so that we can speak for ourselves and 829 00:35:31,467 --> 00:35:34,034 can speak for ourselves and have things in our own words 830 00:35:34,034 --> 00:35:36,667 have things in our own words and that does come from funding 831 00:35:36,667 --> 00:35:39,201 and that does come from funding that allows us to get our 832 00:35:39,201 --> 00:35:41,734 that allows us to get our voices out there and so I think 833 00:35:41,734 --> 00:35:44,334 voices out there and so I think that really is a large part of 834 00:35:44,334 --> 00:35:46,401 that really is a large part of it again as I said before don’t 835 00:35:46,401 --> 00:35:49,500 it again as I said before don’t hire black ??? people and 836 00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:52,900 hire black ??? people and People Brown people trans women 837 00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:54,501 People Brown people trans women don’t hire them just to ignore 838 00:35:54,501 --> 00:35:59,100 don’t hire them just to ignore them. You I was reaching out to 839 00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:00,500 them. You I was reaching out to people and saying, can I have 840 00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:02,134 people and saying, can I have a thousand dollars? Can I have 841 00:36:02,134 --> 00:36:06,367 a thousand dollars? Can I have you know $5000 small small 842 00:36:06,367 --> 00:36:07,901 you know $5000 small small drops in the bucket as far as 843 00:36:07,901 --> 00:36:10,268 drops in the bucket as far as what their financials look like 844 00:36:10,268 --> 00:36:12,933 what their financials look like to help pull together hundreds 845 00:36:12,933 --> 00:36:15,201 to help pull together hundreds of people of queerer salvation, 846 00:36:15,201 --> 00:36:18,900 of people of queerer salvation, you know experience to have a 847 00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:21,600 you know experience to have a sense of community and it was 848 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,966 sense of community and it was like pulling teeth. You know, I 849 00:36:23,966 --> 00:36:27,167 like pulling teeth. You know, I mean I could not get enough 850 00:36:27,167 --> 00:36:33,866 mean I could not get enough money pull together to make 851 00:36:33,866 --> 00:36:36,000 money pull together to make enough to to have the 852 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,434 enough to to have the conference when we needed it. I 853 00:36:37,434 --> 00:36:39,667 conference when we needed it. I mean we were we were coming. 854 00:36:39,667 --> 00:36:41,934 mean we were we were coming. And we had our budget, but we 855 00:36:41,934 --> 00:36:45,233 And we had our budget, but we did it was very snug needless 856 00:36:45,233 --> 00:36:50,034 did it was very snug needless to say so I’m gonna echo both 857 00:36:50,034 --> 00:36:51,933 to say so I’m gonna echo both Candace and Rita’s comments on 858 00:36:51,933 --> 00:36:54,233 Candace and Rita’s comments on leading with your pocket-book 859 00:36:54,233 --> 00:36:58,000 leading with your pocket-book there and then additionally, as 860 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,367 there and then additionally, as far as being within companies 861 00:37:01,367 --> 00:37:03,933 far as being within companies you know having policies for 862 00:37:03,933 --> 00:37:07,067 you know having policies for safety discrimination you know, 863 00:37:07,067 --> 00:37:09,068 safety discrimination you know, we’re lucky that we just got a 864 00:37:09,068 --> 00:37:10,367 we’re lucky that we just got a hate crimes bill here in 865 00:37:10,367 --> 00:37:12,234 hate crimes bill here in Georgia I’ve been fired 866 00:37:12,234 --> 00:37:15,400 Georgia I’ve been fired personally for being a woman of 867 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,601 personally for being a woman of trans experience, so it is part 868 00:37:16,601 --> 00:37:20,600 trans experience, so it is part of my story We’re blessed that 869 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,701 of my story We’re blessed that we just got that, but in one 870 00:37:22,701 --> 00:37:24,566 we just got that, but in one sense we gained that and then 871 00:37:24,566 --> 00:37:29,301 sense we gained that and then as you know we also lost you 872 00:37:29,301 --> 00:37:32,101 as you know we also lost you know movement on the other bill 873 00:37:32,101 --> 00:37:37,000 know movement on the other bill as far as that BLM yeah, no, I 874 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,533 as far as that BLM yeah, no, I appreciate you for bringing 875 00:37:38,533 --> 00:37:40,401 appreciate you for bringing that up too because we did just 876 00:37:40,401 --> 00:37:43,766 that up too because we did just see from the Supreme Court 877 00:37:43,766 --> 00:37:45,201 see from the Supreme Court surprisingly, and I think this 878 00:37:45,201 --> 00:37:47,301 surprisingly, and I think this is like one of the you and I 879 00:37:47,301 --> 00:37:50,667 is like one of the you and I talked recently after we had 880 00:37:50,667 --> 00:37:53,300 talked recently after we had saw you know and not getting 881 00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:55,767 saw you know and not getting into the partisanship of you 882 00:37:55,767 --> 00:37:57,233 into the partisanship of you know, elections and things of 883 00:37:57,233 --> 00:37:58,534 know, elections and things of that nature, but we saw you 884 00:37:58,534 --> 00:38:01,134 that nature, but we saw you know an executive order come 885 00:38:01,134 --> 00:38:01,766 know an executive order come out from the Trump 886 00:38:01,766 --> 00:38:02,267 out from the Trump administration rescinding 887 00:38:02,267 --> 00:38:05,433 administration rescinding particular. 888 00:38:07,168 --> 00:38:10,667 specifically targeting you know 889 00:38:10,667 --> 00:38:12,834 specifically targeting you know our our our brothers and 890 00:38:12,834 --> 00:38:15,966 our our our brothers and sisters nationwide and then we 891 00:38:15,966 --> 00:38:18,101 sisters nationwide and then we saw the Supreme Court come down 892 00:38:18,101 --> 00:38:21,801 saw the Supreme Court come down with a decision and which to 893 00:38:21,801 --> 00:38:25,634 with a decision and which to surprise them so many people 894 00:38:25,634 --> 00:38:27,667 surprise them so many people that really did find that Just 895 00:38:27,667 --> 00:38:29,934 that really did find that Just cause was basically a civil 896 00:38:29,934 --> 00:38:32,800 cause was basically a civil rights issue and that you know 897 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,300 rights issue and that you know title seven did provide certain 898 00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:38,434 title seven did provide certain protections and guarantees for 899 00:38:38,434 --> 00:38:42,000 protections and guarantees for folks that have not been 900 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,334 folks that have not been acknowledged before. Can you 901 00:38:43,334 --> 00:38:44,234 acknowledged before. Can you just? I mean I know you’ve 902 00:38:44,234 --> 00:38:45,967 just? I mean I know you’ve talked a little about this, but 903 00:38:45,967 --> 00:38:47,233 talked a little about this, but you just talk to me a little 904 00:38:47,233 --> 00:38:49,467 you just talk to me a little bit about Jess like the 905 00:38:49,467 --> 00:38:50,433 bit about Jess like the importance of having these 906 00:38:50,433 --> 00:38:56,601 importance of having these types. In place for folks, so 907 00:38:56,601 --> 00:38:59,901 types. In place for folks, so I’ll speak really briefly about 908 00:38:59,901 --> 00:39:01,901 I’ll speak really briefly about what it felt like to be in that 909 00:39:01,901 --> 00:39:05,967 what it felt like to be in that moment specifically I had go 910 00:39:05,967 --> 00:39:11,334 moment specifically I had go live and I I I lost it That 911 00:39:11,334 --> 00:39:14,134 live and I I I lost it That week was a very emotional week 912 00:39:14,134 --> 00:39:16,600 week was a very emotional week for the trans community, 913 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,301 for the trans community, specifically the black trans 914 00:39:18,301 --> 00:39:19,867 specifically the black trans community or POC folks because 915 00:39:19,867 --> 00:39:23,501 community or POC folks because we had two sisters, Riaa, 916 00:39:23,501 --> 00:39:26,834 we had two sisters, Riaa, Milton and Dominique Phils 917 00:39:26,834 --> 00:39:30,767 Milton and Dominique Phils murdered Rhea was 18 years old 918 00:39:30,767 --> 00:39:32,733 murdered Rhea was 18 years old and Dominique Phils was 919 00:39:32,733 --> 00:39:37,400 and Dominique Phils was absolutely it was it was. Ric 920 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,401 absolutely it was it was. Ric murder you know her body her 921 00:39:39,401 --> 00:39:43,100 murder you know her body her body was mutilated and it was 922 00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:45,967 body was mutilated and it was you know terrorizing for our 923 00:39:45,967 --> 00:39:46,733 you know terrorizing for our community to deal with that in 924 00:39:46,733 --> 00:39:48,600 community to deal with that in and of itself, then 925 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,000 and of itself, then Additionally, it happened to be 926 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,901 Additionally, it happened to be the day that he passed the 927 00:39:52,901 --> 00:39:54,867 the day that he passed the executive order or the 928 00:39:54,867 --> 00:39:56,201 executive order or the executive order signed off on 929 00:39:56,201 --> 00:39:58,600 executive order signed off on it was you know the anniversary 930 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,101 it was you know the anniversary of the Pulse massacre or our 931 00:40:01,101 --> 00:40:02,934 of the Pulse massacre or our community was already hurting 932 00:40:02,934 --> 00:40:06,101 community was already hurting from that perspective as well. 933 00:40:06,101 --> 00:40:07,234 from that perspective as well. we were blessed that the 934 00:40:07,234 --> 00:40:09,001 we were blessed that the following Monday, the Supreme 935 00:40:09,001 --> 00:40:11,134 following Monday, the Supreme Court did come down and rule on 936 00:40:11,134 --> 00:40:14,534 Court did come down and rule on that title seven, but you know. 937 00:40:14,534 --> 00:40:19,734 that title seven, but you know. Our you know our our country 938 00:40:19,734 --> 00:40:22,467 Our you know our our country and to make racism like the 939 00:40:22,467 --> 00:40:25,334 and to make racism like the speech like this, whether it’s 940 00:40:25,334 --> 00:40:27,867 speech like this, whether it’s racism whether it’s whether 941 00:40:27,867 --> 00:40:31,867 racism whether it’s whether it’s homophobia, Islamophobia 942 00:40:31,867 --> 00:40:33,001 it’s homophobia, Islamophobia anti-Semitism. All of these 943 00:40:33,001 --> 00:40:34,000 anti-Semitism. All of these things should not be allowed so 944 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,367 things should not be allowed so it falls on local if we don’t 945 00:40:37,367 --> 00:40:39,833 it falls on local if we don’t have National laws to protect 946 00:40:39,833 --> 00:40:41,101 have National laws to protect us, we don’t have people like 947 00:40:41,101 --> 00:40:43,067 us, we don’t have people like ranta who are fighting for us 948 00:40:43,067 --> 00:40:45,301 ranta who are fighting for us on a local legislative 949 00:40:45,301 --> 00:40:48,367 on a local legislative standpoint. Bennet it falls on 950 00:40:48,367 --> 00:40:50,333 standpoint. Bennet it falls on us as people who are 951 00:40:50,333 --> 00:40:52,400 us as people who are professionals in our line of 952 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,867 professionals in our line of work to then reach out and make 953 00:40:56,867 --> 00:40:59,800 work to then reach out and make movements within our lines of 954 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,601 movements within our lines of professional. you know where we 955 00:41:02,601 --> 00:41:03,434 professional. you know where we fall in our careers, whether 956 00:41:03,434 --> 00:41:07,634 fall in our careers, whether you’re a lawyer or you’. To 957 00:41:07,634 --> 00:41:09,600 you’re a lawyer or you’. To have our associations and 958 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,000 have our associations and create additional protections 959 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,866 create additional protections for marginalized communities if 960 00:41:14,866 --> 00:41:18,134 for marginalized communities if that makes sense. 961 00:41:19,201 --> 00:41:21,334 It does and thank you for that 962 00:41:21,334 --> 00:41:24,367 It does and thank you for that and thank you for. also, I mean 963 00:41:24,367 --> 00:41:26,167 and thank you for. also, I mean I think for a lot of us if 964 00:41:26,167 --> 00:41:27,067 I think for a lot of us if you’re thinking about buying a 965 00:41:27,067 --> 00:41:28,667 you’re thinking about buying a House and things that these are 966 00:41:28,667 --> 00:41:30,000 House and things that these are things that folks will take 967 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,500 things that folks will take into consideration like who are 968 00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:34,067 into consideration like who are they dealing with who are we 969 00:41:34,067 --> 00:41:37,333 they dealing with who are we giving our money since Realtors 970 00:41:37,333 --> 00:41:37,967 giving our money since Realtors get Commission and things of 971 00:41:37,967 --> 00:41:39,667 get Commission and things of that nature? who are we giving 972 00:41:39,667 --> 00:41:41,534 that nature? who are we giving our money to? it’s also a part 973 00:41:41,534 --> 00:41:45,034 our money to? it’s also a part of like how we do things for $4 974 00:41:45,034 --> 00:41:48,733 of like how we do things for $4 too. if we’re supporting people 975 00:41:48,733 --> 00:41:52,000 too. if we’re supporting people who are not, you know working 976 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,201 who are not, you know working not just working against but 977 00:41:54,201 --> 00:41:56,133 not just working against but like actively cuz the post is 978 00:41:56,133 --> 00:41:57,333 like actively cuz the post is actually very vile that you 979 00:41:57,333 --> 00:42:00,767 actually very vile that you shared earlier. 980 00:42:01,767 --> 00:42:05,900 but go in the Candace so just 981 00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:07,801 but go in the Candace so just thinking about like some of the 982 00:42:07,801 --> 00:42:09,467 thinking about like some of the work that you’ve been doing 983 00:42:09,467 --> 00:42:11,233 work that you’ve been doing specifically with you know, 984 00:42:11,233 --> 00:42:12,667 specifically with you know, Black woman’s March and other 985 00:42:12,667 --> 00:42:16,800 Black woman’s March and other work specifically in Houston 986 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,667 work specifically in Houston have you know you have you know 987 00:42:20,667 --> 00:42:22,666 have you know you have you know Co organized with our good 988 00:42:22,666 --> 00:42:27,534 Co organized with our good friend? Ashton Woods who is a 989 00:42:27,534 --> 00:42:30,100 friend? Ashton Woods who is a black man And just amazing you 990 00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:33,101 black man And just amazing you know all around human being, 991 00:42:33,101 --> 00:42:35,534 know all around human being, but like some of the some of 992 00:42:35,534 --> 00:42:38,301 but like some of the some of the backlash we see online with 993 00:42:38,301 --> 00:42:40,067 the backlash we see online with like nonsense about like what 994 00:42:40,067 --> 00:42:43,501 like nonsense about like what is BLM have to do with you know 995 00:42:43,501 --> 00:42:46,133 is BLM have to do with you know you know LGBTQ. we just all 996 00:42:46,133 --> 00:42:46,734 you know LGBTQ. we just all these other things or like you 997 00:42:46,734 --> 00:42:50,934 these other things or like you know. Really, even the fact 998 00:42:50,934 --> 00:42:54,468 know. Really, even the fact that we have to name that black 999 00:42:54,468 --> 00:42:56,801 that we have to name that black trans lives matter like, Can 1000 00:42:56,801 --> 00:42:59,333 trans lives matter like, Can you just talk to us a little 1001 00:42:59,333 --> 00:43:03,133 you just talk to us a little bit about like why it is so 1002 00:43:03,133 --> 00:43:06,300 bit about like why it is so necessary to focus and really 1003 00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:09,701 necessary to focus and really get like the larger community. 1004 00:43:09,701 --> 00:43:11,767 get like the larger community. whether we’re talking about in 1005 00:43:11,767 --> 00:43:12,734 whether we’re talking about in black organizing spaces, 1006 00:43:12,734 --> 00:43:13,934 black organizing spaces, whether we’re talking about 1007 00:43:13,934 --> 00:43:15,766 whether we’re talking about just a larger, you know, 1008 00:43:15,766 --> 00:43:17,534 just a larger, you know, Progressive or liberal, you 1009 00:43:17,534 --> 00:43:20,200 Progressive or liberal, you know social Justice spaces like 1010 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,000 know social Justice spaces like why we really have to drive 1011 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,000 why we really have to drive this home if people understand 1012 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:25,934 this home if people understand just why do we then have to 1013 00:43:25,934 --> 00:43:29,067 just why do we then have to like? 1014 00:43:29,567 --> 00:43:30,501 Have these other conversations 1015 00:43:30,501 --> 00:43:34,800 Have these other conversations as well? 1016 00:43:36,301 --> 00:43:44,167 So I have some theories on this 1017 00:43:44,167 --> 00:43:45,800 So I have some theories on this because first of all I love 1018 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,567 because first of all I love black people, I don’t think 1019 00:43:47,567 --> 00:43:50,667 black people, I don’t think we’re more 1020 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,967 So when straight people no 1021 00:43:55,967 --> 00:44:00,401 So when straight people no matter what color you are when 1022 00:44:00,401 --> 00:44:02,434 matter what color you are when people who have not done their 1023 00:44:02,434 --> 00:44:07,267 people who have not done their work look at the 1024 00:44:07,367 --> 00:44:11,101 LGBTQIA experience they do not 1025 00:44:11,101 --> 00:44:15,401 LGBTQIA experience they do not place as much importance. on 1026 00:44:15,401 --> 00:44:19,267 place as much importance. on that life and that experience 1027 00:44:19,267 --> 00:44:22,801 that life and that experience as they do themselves because 1028 00:44:22,801 --> 00:44:27,901 as they do themselves because that human nature right. so we 1029 00:44:27,901 --> 00:44:29,267 that human nature right. so we have a lot of educating to do 1030 00:44:29,267 --> 00:44:32,401 have a lot of educating to do with. 1031 00:44:32,434 --> 00:44:34,967 But at the same time, I mean 1032 00:44:34,967 --> 00:44:37,467 But at the same time, I mean some people don’t get real 1033 00:44:37,467 --> 00:44:39,733 some people don’t get real irritated with me by me saying 1034 00:44:39,733 --> 00:44:43,167 irritated with me by me saying this but I’ve never been one to 1035 00:44:43,167 --> 00:44:46,201 this but I’ve never been one to really you know change my words 1036 00:44:46,201 --> 00:44:49,801 really you know change my words based on other people’s 1037 00:44:49,801 --> 00:44:52,933 based on other people’s response to them. I sometimes 1038 00:44:52,933 --> 00:44:58,167 response to them. I sometimes tell black people and we are 1039 00:44:58,167 --> 00:45:03,933 tell black people and we are organizing and blacks spaces 1040 00:45:03,933 --> 00:45:05,400 organizing and blacks spaces you have to treat straight 1041 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,867 you have to treat straight people like you treat White 1042 00:45:06,867 --> 00:45:10,000 people like you treat White people. 1043 00:45:10,233 --> 00:45:13,634 They don’t understand what it’s 1044 00:45:13,634 --> 00:45:16,768 They don’t understand what it’s like to be us, They don’t 1045 00:45:16,768 --> 00:45:19,468 like to be us, They don’t understand what it’s like to 1046 00:45:19,468 --> 00:45:24,401 understand what it’s like to live and walk. this path. 1047 00:45:24,401 --> 00:45:26,368 live and walk. this path. because they don’t understand 1048 00:45:26,368 --> 00:45:28,434 because they don’t understand it is human nature for them to 1049 00:45:28,434 --> 00:45:33,234 it is human nature for them to look at our path our experience 1050 00:45:33,234 --> 00:45:36,733 look at our path our experience and think that they are not 1051 00:45:36,733 --> 00:45:42,167 and think that they are not vital. to the struggle. We know 1052 00:45:42,167 --> 00:45:44,434 vital. to the struggle. We know that is not true. so we’re 1053 00:45:44,434 --> 00:45:46,333 that is not true. so we’re handling like we handle 1054 00:45:46,333 --> 00:45:48,500 handling like we handle privileged White people 1055 00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:50,468 privileged White people straight people black people 1056 00:45:50,468 --> 00:45:53,901 straight people black people straight people need. to. The 1057 00:45:53,901 --> 00:45:56,000 straight people need. to. The owners is on them where your 1058 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,566 owners is on them where your allies at you tell your black 1059 00:45:59,566 --> 00:46:01,634 allies at you tell your black straight allies to meet me this 1060 00:46:01,634 --> 00:46:05,067 straight allies to meet me this black ??? person on neutral 1061 00:46:05,067 --> 00:46:08,401 black ??? person on neutral turf and I promise the good of 1062 00:46:08,401 --> 00:46:12,267 turf and I promise the good of black lives I will give you as 1063 00:46:12,267 --> 00:46:15,033 black lives I will give you as much education as I have within 1064 00:46:15,033 --> 00:46:20,467 much education as I have within me you have to seek it out. I. 1065 00:46:20,467 --> 00:46:25,001 me you have to seek it out. I. personally think that. 1066 00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:28,433 They’ve taken enough gloves so 1067 00:46:28,433 --> 00:46:32,334 They’ve taken enough gloves so that once again the owner is on 1068 00:46:32,334 --> 00:46:35,500 that once again the owner is on transgender people who educate 1069 00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:40,300 transgender people who educate transgender people’s lives to 1070 00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:44,201 transgender people’s lives to open doors for the trans woman 1071 00:46:44,201 --> 00:46:47,434 open doors for the trans woman to come in and then share her 1072 00:46:47,434 --> 00:46:49,400 to come in and then share her lived experience in a non 1073 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,567 lived experience in a non hostile environment. but this 1074 00:46:51,567 --> 00:46:54,867 hostile environment. but this is gender black woman has got 1075 00:46:54,867 --> 00:46:58,134 is gender black woman has got to decrease the cost of 1076 00:46:58,134 --> 00:47:00,101 to decrease the cost of hostility in that environment 1077 00:47:00,101 --> 00:47:04,034 hostility in that environment for her to come into 1078 00:47:04,034 --> 00:47:04,067 for her to come into So 1079 00:47:04,067 --> 00:47:07,368 So yeah, educate yourselves. 1080 00:47:07,368 --> 00:47:10,666 So yeah, educate yourselves. Where’s your allies that rise 1081 00:47:10,666 --> 00:47:14,733 Where’s your allies that rise up and do this work with me? so 1082 00:47:14,733 --> 00:47:16,333 up and do this work with me? so we can make things better for 1083 00:47:16,333 --> 00:47:20,000 we can make things better for all of us. and I’m not debating 1084 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,167 all of us. and I’m not debating my humanity not with black 1085 00:47:23,167 --> 00:47:25,134 my humanity not with black people not with White people 1086 00:47:25,134 --> 00:47:29,168 people not with White people not with straight people gay 1087 00:47:29,168 --> 00:47:31,967 not with straight people gay people not anyone I am worthy 1088 00:47:31,967 --> 00:47:37,667 people not anyone I am worthy because I exist. And I and so 1089 00:47:37,667 --> 00:47:39,567 because I exist. And I and so little black girls you don’t 1090 00:47:39,567 --> 00:47:42,833 little black girls you don’t have to explain anything I love 1091 00:47:42,833 --> 00:47:44,566 have to explain anything I love that thank you and I mean I 1092 00:47:44,566 --> 00:47:46,467 that thank you and I mean I just feel like you know we have 1093 00:47:46,467 --> 00:47:47,834 just feel like you know we have any of our children And 1094 00:47:47,834 --> 00:47:49,801 any of our children And Scholars joining us like I am 1095 00:47:49,801 --> 00:47:53,967 Scholars joining us like I am worthy because Well, I cannot 1096 00:47:53,967 --> 00:47:58,301 worthy because Well, I cannot contribute to creating policy 1097 00:47:58,301 --> 00:48:01,667 contribute to creating policy creating laws that protect us 1098 00:48:01,667 --> 00:48:05,967 creating laws that protect us equally and my person my 1099 00:48:05,967 --> 00:48:09,867 equally and my person my history, my hopes for future 1100 00:48:09,867 --> 00:48:15,633 history, my hopes for future are not spotlighted. in the the 1101 00:48:15,633 --> 00:48:20,034 are not spotlighted. in the the the driving of policy right so. 1102 00:48:20,034 --> 00:48:24,067 the driving of policy right so. let let’s take something pretty 1103 00:48:24,067 --> 00:48:25,901 let let’s take something pretty let’s take it to education. 1104 00:48:25,901 --> 00:48:27,601 let’s take it to education. education is very important to 1105 00:48:27,601 --> 00:48:30,533 education is very important to me right, so we’re talking 1106 00:48:30,533 --> 00:48:34,467 me right, so we’re talking about creating policy and law. 1107 00:48:36,233 --> 00:48:38,434 To make sure that all children 1108 00:48:38,434 --> 00:48:41,534 To make sure that all children are educated in an equitable 1109 00:48:41,534 --> 00:48:47,600 are educated in an equitable way, but if I do not Center. 1110 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,701 way, but if I do not Center. food insecurity that happens in 1111 00:48:50,701 --> 00:48:52,767 food insecurity that happens in the black community, that’s my 1112 00:48:52,767 --> 00:48:55,067 the black community, that’s my identity. Those are my issues. 1113 00:48:55,067 --> 00:48:56,600 identity. Those are my issues. Those are my struggles. That’s 1114 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,934 Those are my struggles. That’s my politics. I’m not sinner 1115 00:48:58,934 --> 00:49:03,267 my politics. I’m not sinner that if I do not sinner housing 1116 00:49:03,267 --> 00:49:05,201 that if I do not sinner housing issues if I do not sin or 1117 00:49:05,201 --> 00:49:08,267 issues if I do not sin or poverty if I do not sinner 1118 00:49:08,267 --> 00:49:11,867 poverty if I do not sinner police brutality if I do not 1119 00:49:11,867 --> 00:49:15,133 police brutality if I do not send her the fact that. 1120 00:49:15,933 --> 00:49:21,234 Children are watching police 1121 00:49:21,234 --> 00:49:26,467 Children are watching police violently. interact. with black 1122 00:49:26,467 --> 00:49:30,534 violently. interact. with black people then I cannot create a 1123 00:49:30,534 --> 00:49:33,967 people then I cannot create a policy I cannot legislate 1124 00:49:33,967 --> 00:49:37,033 policy I cannot legislate change that creates an 1125 00:49:37,033 --> 00:49:39,201 change that creates an environment for black children 1126 00:49:39,201 --> 00:49:44,368 environment for black children to thrive in. If my identity 1127 00:49:44,368 --> 00:49:50,733 to thrive in. If my identity then my politics are useless. 1128 00:49:51,134 --> 00:49:53,134 Except the White people that 1129 00:49:53,134 --> 00:49:55,634 Except the White people that want to maintain the status 1130 00:49:55,634 --> 00:49:57,900 want to maintain the status quo, so you’re not gonna get my 1131 00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:00,934 quo, so you’re not gonna get my vote You’re not gonna get my 1132 00:50:00,934 --> 00:50:03,633 vote You’re not gonna get my support unless you recognize my 1133 00:50:03,633 --> 00:50:08,634 support unless you recognize my identity. and my intersections 1134 00:50:08,634 --> 00:50:13,600 identity. and my intersections and how race and gender collide 1135 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:18,800 and how race and gender collide right in front of me right. And 1136 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,601 right in front of me right. And in regards to identity 1137 00:50:20,601 --> 00:50:22,701 in regards to identity politics, one of the things 1138 00:50:22,701 --> 00:50:27,500 politics, one of the things that I tell all women of color. 1139 00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:34,367 that I tell all women of color. is. why support Chain you can 1140 00:50:34,367 --> 00:50:37,967 is. why support Chain you can get a vote for free. 1141 00:50:38,034 --> 00:50:42,634 your vote. to maintain power 1142 00:50:42,634 --> 00:50:45,300 your vote. to maintain power within your own communities and 1143 00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:48,533 within your own communities and within institutions that need 1144 00:50:48,533 --> 00:50:51,767 within institutions that need to be changed. Don’t give 1145 00:50:51,767 --> 00:50:53,734 to be changed. Don’t give anything away for free. No 1146 00:50:53,734 --> 00:50:55,833 anything away for free. No ladies leverage what you’ve got 1147 00:50:55,833 --> 00:50:57,700 ladies leverage what you’ve got to get what you need That’s 1148 00:50:57,700 --> 00:51:00,800 to get what you need That’s identity. 1149 00:51:07,534 --> 00:51:12,200 Thank you Renita similar 1150 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,067 Thank you Renita similar question about representation. 1151 00:51:13,067 --> 00:51:15,633 question about representation. I just I just was following up 1152 00:51:15,633 --> 00:51:17,600 I just I just was following up with specifically about 1153 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:18,234 with specifically about identity politics, but also 1154 00:51:18,234 --> 00:51:20,500 identity politics, but also just thinking about you know 1155 00:51:20,500 --> 00:51:23,766 just thinking about you know your role and your position as 1156 00:51:23,766 --> 00:51:27,267 your role and your position as a state Rep just thinking about 1157 00:51:27,267 --> 00:51:30,500 a state Rep just thinking about like representation. I’m not. 1158 00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:32,567 like representation. I’m not. I’m not someone who’s gonna say 1159 00:51:32,567 --> 00:51:34,600 I’m not someone who’s gonna say representation is not 1160 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,101 representation is not necessary. I definitely believe 1161 00:51:36,101 --> 00:51:38,101 necessary. I definitely believe we are so much better when 1162 00:51:38,101 --> 00:51:40,100 we are so much better when there are people who look like 1163 00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:44,200 there are people who look like us in spaces but as freshen 1164 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,067 us in spaces but as freshen goes all folk and Kinfolk so 1165 00:51:45,067 --> 00:51:49,167 goes all folk and Kinfolk so just. We need representation, 1166 00:51:49,167 --> 00:51:50,967 just. We need representation, but it seems like we need do we 1167 00:51:50,967 --> 00:51:54,067 but it seems like we need do we need representation plus a 1168 00:51:54,067 --> 00:51:56,333 need representation plus a representation and like is 1169 00:51:56,333 --> 00:51:57,400 representation and like is there something else that we 1170 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,500 there something else that we need in addition to just Your 1171 00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:02,201 need in addition to just Your community then somebody who 1172 00:52:02,201 --> 00:52:03,667 community then somebody who actually comes from your 1173 00:52:03,667 --> 00:52:05,434 actually comes from your community and I think that is 1174 00:52:05,434 --> 00:52:08,734 community and I think that is the strongest argument for 1175 00:52:08,734 --> 00:52:10,666 the strongest argument for identity politics because you 1176 00:52:10,666 --> 00:52:12,667 identity politics because you are electing people who you at 1177 00:52:12,667 --> 00:52:15,967 are electing people who you at least know that they know your 1178 00:52:15,967 --> 00:52:17,734 least know that they know your experience now whether they are 1179 00:52:17,734 --> 00:52:19,667 experience now whether they are willing to activate and willing 1180 00:52:19,667 --> 00:52:22,267 willing to activate and willing to push what you mentioned 1181 00:52:22,267 --> 00:52:25,601 to push what you mentioned before Allin folk all skin folk 1182 00:52:25,601 --> 00:52:27,634 before Allin folk all skin folk and kempo, you know whether 1183 00:52:27,634 --> 00:52:29,468 and kempo, you know whether they’re willing to actually 1184 00:52:29,468 --> 00:52:31,467 they’re willing to actually activate and really, you know 1185 00:52:31,467 --> 00:52:33,334 activate and really, you know move policies that will drive 1186 00:52:33,334 --> 00:52:35,900 move policies that will drive equity for their own community 1187 00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:36,401 equity for their own community with their chest out is a 1188 00:52:36,401 --> 00:52:40,067 with their chest out is a different story. I do agree 1189 00:52:40,067 --> 00:52:42,467 different story. I do agree with what Ayana Presley 1190 00:52:42,467 --> 00:52:44,467 with what Ayana Presley Congressman Congresswoman I am 1191 00:52:44,467 --> 00:52:47,033 Congressman Congresswoman I am a Presley said last year, which 1192 00:52:47,033 --> 00:52:48,567 a Presley said last year, which is we don’t need more black 1193 00:52:48,567 --> 00:52:50,401 is we don’t need more black people who aren’t willing to be 1194 00:52:50,401 --> 00:52:52,801 people who aren’t willing to be the faces for black issues and 1195 00:52:52,801 --> 00:52:56,234 the faces for black issues and so I do think that we do need 1196 00:52:56,234 --> 00:52:58,734 so I do think that we do need We representation is important 1197 00:52:58,734 --> 00:53:00,833 We representation is important We do need to continue to 1198 00:53:00,833 --> 00:53:04,034 We do need to continue to increase the parity of which we 1199 00:53:04,034 --> 00:53:07,034 increase the parity of which we see for the number of black 1200 00:53:07,034 --> 00:53:11,533 see for the number of black women black ??? women trans 1201 00:53:11,533 --> 00:53:13,833 women black ??? women trans women of color all of us to be 1202 00:53:13,833 --> 00:53:14,767 women of color all of us to be elected because we do know the 1203 00:53:14,767 --> 00:53:17,667 elected because we do know the experience, but then the plus. 1204 00:53:17,667 --> 00:53:19,534 experience, but then the plus. Really talks about if you are 1205 00:53:19,534 --> 00:53:22,167 Really talks about if you are really willing to activate on 1206 00:53:22,167 --> 00:53:24,267 really willing to activate on those issues and so that is the 1207 00:53:24,267 --> 00:53:26,166 those issues and so that is the next part that I think that we 1208 00:53:26,166 --> 00:53:27,601 next part that I think that we really need to have a 1209 00:53:27,601 --> 00:53:28,500 really need to have a conversation about we don’t 1210 00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:31,767 conversation about we don’t need to walk it back as far as 1211 00:53:31,767 --> 00:53:33,334 need to walk it back as far as throwing away our identity 1212 00:53:33,334 --> 00:53:35,001 throwing away our identity politics What we need to do is 1213 00:53:35,001 --> 00:53:36,867 politics What we need to do is just make sure that we elect 1214 00:53:36,867 --> 00:53:38,967 just make sure that we elect people who come from these 1215 00:53:38,967 --> 00:53:40,667 people who come from these backgrounds, but we also have 1216 00:53:40,667 --> 00:53:42,901 backgrounds, but we also have the back ??? who are willing to 1217 00:53:42,901 --> 00:53:44,567 the back ??? who are willing to stand up for these issues and I 1218 00:53:44,567 --> 00:53:46,233 stand up for these issues and I think that’s really the 1219 00:53:46,233 --> 00:53:47,334 think that’s really the important part. The other 1220 00:53:47,334 --> 00:53:48,901 important part. The other thing. I’ll just mention real 1221 00:53:48,901 --> 00:53:51,700 thing. I’ll just mention real quick is on the topic earlier 1222 00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:54,067 quick is on the topic earlier about you know folks wanting 1223 00:53:54,067 --> 00:53:58,567 about you know folks wanting you to just. About being black, 1224 00:53:58,567 --> 00:53:59,367 you to just. About being black, but not talk about being 1225 00:53:59,367 --> 00:54:01,334 but not talk about being queerer, I’ve certainly 1226 00:54:01,334 --> 00:54:02,000 queerer, I’ve certainly experienced that people say you 1227 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,900 experienced that people say you know what you go hard for black 1228 00:54:03,900 --> 00:54:05,334 know what you go hard for black issues. Can you just leave it 1229 00:54:05,334 --> 00:54:06,600 issues. Can you just leave it in black issues and not talk 1230 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,433 in black issues and not talk about being queerer My question 1231 00:54:08,433 --> 00:54:11,700 about being queerer My question to those folks is where exactly 1232 00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:13,300 to those folks is where exactly do you expect black people to 1233 00:54:13,300 --> 00:54:16,366 do you expect black people to live where do you expect us to 1234 00:54:16,366 --> 00:54:18,433 live where do you expect us to exist? Can we just live because 1235 00:54:18,433 --> 00:54:21,500 exist? Can we just live because at the end of the day if we 1236 00:54:21,500 --> 00:54:23,366 at the end of the day if we we’re not we’re not gonna be 1237 00:54:23,366 --> 00:54:24,067 we’re not we’re not gonna be free until we’re all free and 1238 00:54:24,067 --> 00:54:27,068 free until we’re all free and so I would not want to imagine 1239 00:54:27,068 --> 00:54:29,301 so I would not want to imagine a point where you know racism 1240 00:54:29,301 --> 00:54:30,367 a point where you know racism is not gonna be solved 1241 00:54:30,367 --> 00:54:31,601 is not gonna be solved overnight. I would not wanna 1242 00:54:31,601 --> 00:54:35,101 overnight. I would not wanna get to a point where. 1243 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,167 Substantial work on racism, but 1244 00:54:36,167 --> 00:54:38,833 Substantial work on racism, but then I still cannot live in my 1245 00:54:38,833 --> 00:54:40,901 then I still cannot live in my authentic self and so I would 1246 00:54:40,901 --> 00:54:42,400 authentic self and so I would say you know to everyone who’s 1247 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,000 say you know to everyone who’s watching this. please don’t do 1248 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,067 watching this. please don’t do that to black people. Please 1249 00:54:46,067 --> 00:54:49,133 that to black people. Please don’t do this to to to Browne 1250 00:54:49,133 --> 00:54:51,001 don’t do this to to to Browne people. please don’t do this to 1251 00:54:51,001 --> 00:54:53,567 people. please don’t do this to to trans folks of color do not 1252 00:54:53,567 --> 00:54:55,834 to trans folks of color do not do this because it’s really 1253 00:54:55,834 --> 00:54:58,468 do this because it’s really gonna set up a situation where 1254 00:54:58,468 --> 00:55:01,101 gonna set up a situation where you know. people will not be 1255 00:55:01,101 --> 00:55:03,934 you know. people will not be able to also live in their full 1256 00:55:03,934 --> 00:55:05,467 able to also live in their full identity and that is really 1257 00:55:05,467 --> 00:55:07,467 identity and that is really important and also as I said 1258 00:55:07,467 --> 00:55:09,401 important and also as I said before we can carry the water 1259 00:55:09,401 --> 00:55:13,667 before we can carry the water for all of us. I think that 1260 00:55:13,667 --> 00:55:14,767 for all of us. I think that sometimes folks get trapped in 1261 00:55:14,767 --> 00:55:17,100 sometimes folks get trapped in the sentiment of just talk 1262 00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:17,634 the sentiment of just talk about being black, but don’t 1263 00:55:17,634 --> 00:55:19,134 about being black, but don’t talk about being queerer 1264 00:55:19,134 --> 00:55:22,200 talk about being queerer because we do see that the 1265 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,934 because we do see that the movement for LGBTQ lives has 1266 00:55:24,934 --> 00:55:29,567 movement for LGBTQ lives has actually move pretty rapidly in 1267 00:55:29,567 --> 00:55:32,867 actually move pretty rapidly in comparison to fighting for 1268 00:55:32,867 --> 00:55:34,867 comparison to fighting for equity for black folks. so 1269 00:55:34,867 --> 00:55:36,768 equity for black folks. so you’ll see that target has a 1270 00:55:36,768 --> 00:55:38,600 you’ll see that target has a whole entire product line have 1271 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,667 whole entire product line have not seen a BLM line. I’ve not 1272 00:55:40,667 --> 00:55:43,734 not seen a BLM line. I’ve not seen you know, so I think that 1273 00:55:43,734 --> 00:55:45,034 seen you know, so I think that sentiment really comes out of 1274 00:55:45,034 --> 00:55:46,933 sentiment really comes out of anti blackness because 1275 00:55:46,933 --> 00:55:47,933 anti blackness because communities are starting to 1276 00:55:47,933 --> 00:55:48,500 communities are starting to feel a competition where they 1277 00:55:48,500 --> 00:55:52,900 feel a competition where they feel. Okay, everyone is putting 1278 00:55:52,900 --> 00:55:54,533 feel. Okay, everyone is putting work on queerer issues but not 1279 00:55:54,533 --> 00:55:57,533 work on queerer issues but not on black issues and the support 1280 00:55:57,533 --> 00:55:59,166 on black issues and the support is disproportionate. It 1281 00:55:59,166 --> 00:56:01,333 is disproportionate. It absolutely is, but the answer 1282 00:56:01,333 --> 00:56:04,367 absolutely is, but the answer to that is to continue to 1283 00:56:04,367 --> 00:56:07,667 to that is to continue to Center black and Brown ??? and 1284 00:56:07,667 --> 00:56:10,867 Center black and Brown ??? and trans voices because we are the 1285 00:56:10,867 --> 00:56:12,667 trans voices because we are the ones who are living at the 1286 00:56:12,667 --> 00:56:13,501 ones who are living at the intersection of all of these 1287 00:56:13,501 --> 00:56:16,201 intersection of all of these identities and I promise you we 1288 00:56:16,201 --> 00:56:17,967 identities and I promise you we are not gonna forget 1289 00:56:17,967 --> 00:56:19,766 are not gonna forget communities as we advance 1290 00:56:19,766 --> 00:56:21,501 communities as we advance policies and as we advance 1291 00:56:21,501 --> 00:56:23,800 policies and as we advance these fights that create equity 1292 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:29,967 these fights that create equity for all of us. I Your jobs in 1293 00:56:29,967 --> 00:56:33,601 for all of us. I Your jobs in HIV care everything across the 1294 00:56:33,601 --> 00:56:35,901 HIV care everything across the board hate crimes laws are not 1295 00:56:35,901 --> 00:56:39,168 board hate crimes laws are not passing every single state so 1296 00:56:39,168 --> 00:56:41,134 passing every single state so the equity has to come from the 1297 00:56:41,134 --> 00:56:43,967 the equity has to come from the top down and through and 1298 00:56:43,967 --> 00:56:45,933 top down and through and through every level of your 1299 00:56:45,933 --> 00:56:49,101 through every level of your life, you can’t just be seeing 1300 00:56:49,101 --> 00:56:51,900 life, you can’t just be seeing somebody who looks like you in 1301 00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:54,433 somebody who looks like you in legal office. It’s not gonna 1302 00:56:54,433 --> 00:56:56,367 legal office. It’s not gonna make a change not to mention 1303 00:56:56,367 --> 00:56:58,501 make a change not to mention the fact that as you very well 1304 00:56:58,501 --> 00:57:00,434 the fact that as you very well know I think you’re part of a 1305 00:57:00,434 --> 00:57:02,200 know I think you’re part of a local Organization that I’m 1306 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,867 local Organization that I’m part of I was out providing 1307 00:57:05,867 --> 00:57:09,233 part of I was out providing cold water and food and snacks 1308 00:57:09,233 --> 00:57:13,933 cold water and food and snacks for six hours. so. About 1309 00:57:13,933 --> 00:57:14,700 for six hours. so. About identity politics, let’s talk 1310 00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:18,167 identity politics, let’s talk about the systemic voter 1311 00:57:18,167 --> 00:57:21,268 about the systemic voter suppression that’s going on in 1312 00:57:21,268 --> 00:57:23,501 suppression that’s going on in mostly Red States that don’t 1313 00:57:23,501 --> 00:57:25,133 mostly Red States that don’t allow you to vote to begin 1314 00:57:25,133 --> 00:57:28,200 allow you to vote to begin with. so when you have four and 1315 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,434 with. so when you have four and five hour lines to go out and 1316 00:57:31,434 --> 00:57:33,767 five hour lines to go out and vote how are we playing 1317 00:57:33,767 --> 00:57:35,934 vote how are we playing identity politics to begin 1318 00:57:35,934 --> 00:57:39,000 identity politics to begin with? 1319 00:57:39,834 --> 00:57:44,234 Absolutely Thank you so we are 1320 00:57:44,234 --> 00:57:45,067 Absolutely Thank you so we are almost at time and I really 1321 00:57:45,067 --> 00:57:46,700 almost at time and I really just wanna thank all three of 1322 00:57:46,700 --> 00:57:49,067 just wanna thank all three of our guests this evening for 1323 00:57:49,067 --> 00:57:50,867 our guests this evening for like having this amazing 1324 00:57:50,867 --> 00:57:51,701 like having this amazing conversation with us and really 1325 00:57:51,701 --> 00:57:53,766 conversation with us and really just like breaking it down and 1326 00:57:53,766 --> 00:57:56,533 just like breaking it down and talking just real straight and 1327 00:57:56,533 --> 00:57:58,668 talking just real straight and in a matter of fact, it’s 1328 00:57:58,668 --> 00:58:00,668 in a matter of fact, it’s awesome issues’. Just you know 1329 00:58:00,668 --> 00:58:01,334 awesome issues’. Just you know with closing thoughts are just 1330 00:58:01,334 --> 00:58:03,967 with closing thoughts are just closing comments. I’ll just 1331 00:58:03,967 --> 00:58:05,400 closing comments. I’ll just also ask like if you if you all 1332 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,200 also ask like if you if you all wanna share some parting 1333 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,667 wanna share some parting thoughts and or advice or if 1334 00:58:10,667 --> 00:58:14,166 thoughts and or advice or if there are young women and girls 1335 00:58:14,166 --> 00:58:15,900 there are young women and girls gender non-conforming young 1336 00:58:15,900 --> 00:58:17,533 gender non-conforming young folks who are coming up about 1337 00:58:17,533 --> 00:58:20,100 folks who are coming up about getting involved in this. 1338 00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:22,067 getting involved in this. Engagement advocacy work like 1339 00:58:22,067 --> 00:58:23,200 Engagement advocacy work like if you just have any thoughts 1340 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,133 if you just have any thoughts of just like how they find 1341 00:58:25,133 --> 00:58:26,633 of just like how they find their Center and passions or 1342 00:58:26,633 --> 00:58:29,567 their Center and passions or how they make space for 1343 00:58:29,567 --> 00:58:32,567 how they make space for themselves. even you know I’ll 1344 00:58:32,567 --> 00:58:36,067 themselves. even you know I’ll start with you Renita. So, yes, 1345 00:58:36,067 --> 00:58:38,167 start with you Renita. So, yes, I always extend this invitation 1346 00:58:38,167 --> 00:58:40,000 I always extend this invitation maybe not for folks as young as 1347 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,901 maybe not for folks as young as what you just described, but we 1348 00:58:42,901 --> 00:58:44,901 what you just described, but we do have legislative aid at the 1349 00:58:44,901 --> 00:58:46,467 do have legislative aid at the Capitol. We have teams that we 1350 00:58:46,467 --> 00:58:49,034 Capitol. We have teams that we work with every session and so 1351 00:58:49,034 --> 00:58:51,034 work with every session and so I always do try to use my team 1352 00:58:51,034 --> 00:58:53,834 I always do try to use my team as a way to bring more 1353 00:58:53,834 --> 00:58:54,400 as a way to bring more representation and identity 1354 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,967 representation and identity into the Capitol. So I think 1355 00:58:55,967 --> 00:58:57,367 into the Capitol. So I think that’s one way by reaching out 1356 00:58:57,367 --> 00:58:59,467 that’s one way by reaching out to folks who actually do want 1357 00:58:59,467 --> 00:59:00,934 to folks who actually do want you to be a part of the process 1358 00:59:00,934 --> 00:59:02,467 you to be a part of the process like myself. The other thing is 1359 00:59:02,467 --> 00:59:04,200 like myself. The other thing is I would encourage you to think 1360 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:05,967 I would encourage you to think about what issues you are 1361 00:59:05,967 --> 00:59:08,467 about what issues you are passionate about and that is 1362 00:59:08,467 --> 00:59:09,401 passionate about and that is where you should be working the 1363 00:59:09,401 --> 00:59:13,101 where you should be working the job. Both being elected as well 1364 00:59:13,101 --> 00:59:15,367 job. Both being elected as well as working on these issues is a 1365 00:59:15,367 --> 00:59:17,233 as working on these issues is a really tough job and you 1366 00:59:17,233 --> 00:59:17,800 really tough job and you wouldn’t wanna work on 1367 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,033 wouldn’t wanna work on something that you’re not 1368 00:59:19,033 --> 00:59:20,767 something that you’re not passionate about so I would say 1369 00:59:20,767 --> 00:59:22,101 passionate about so I would say get involved with an 1370 00:59:22,101 --> 00:59:23,834 get involved with an Organization that you trust or 1371 00:59:23,834 --> 00:59:25,734 Organization that you trust or elect leaders that you trust 1372 00:59:25,734 --> 00:59:28,734 elect leaders that you trust who can help mentor you to to 1373 00:59:28,734 --> 00:59:30,833 who can help mentor you to to help you move to that next step 1374 00:59:30,833 --> 00:59:34,901 help you move to that next step and then also really. see 1375 00:59:34,901 --> 00:59:37,201 and then also really. see yourself as somebody who should 1376 00:59:37,201 --> 00:59:38,733 yourself as somebody who should be leading this conversation 1377 00:59:38,733 --> 00:59:40,801 be leading this conversation don’t tell yourself that you’re 1378 00:59:40,801 --> 00:59:42,167 don’t tell yourself that you’re not qualified. I mean, look at 1379 00:59:42,167 --> 00:59:45,167 not qualified. I mean, look at you know I know this is not a 1380 00:59:45,167 --> 00:59:45,967 you know I know this is not a partisan conversation, but I’m 1381 00:59:45,967 --> 00:59:48,934 partisan conversation, but I’m just gonna say, look at who is 1382 00:59:48,934 --> 00:59:49,934 just gonna say, look at who is elected as President. Please 1383 00:59:49,934 --> 00:59:51,001 elected as President. Please don’t tell yourself that you 1384 00:59:51,001 --> 00:59:52,733 don’t tell yourself that you don’t have the capability to 1385 00:59:52,733 --> 00:59:56,200 don’t have the capability to lead because it’s just. 1386 00:59:56,866 --> 00:59:59,933 So, 1387 01:00:00,166 --> 01:00:02,034 I don’t think that’s actually a 1388 01:00:02,034 --> 01:00:03,801 I don’t think that’s actually a partisan observation. I think 1389 01:00:03,801 --> 01:00:05,133 partisan observation. I think there’s some folks on both 1390 01:00:05,133 --> 01:00:06,701 there’s some folks on both sides of the aisle that I agree 1391 01:00:06,701 --> 01:00:10,400 sides of the aisle that I agree with you because even even just 1392 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:11,967 with you because even even just looking at you know we when we 1393 01:00:11,967 --> 01:00:13,701 looking at you know we when we look at both sides of the 1394 01:00:13,701 --> 01:00:15,601 look at both sides of the aisle, there have been you know 1395 01:00:15,601 --> 01:00:18,567 aisle, there have been you know some really great women who 1396 01:00:18,567 --> 01:00:20,467 some really great women who have stepped up regardless of 1397 01:00:20,467 --> 01:00:22,000 have stepped up regardless of what their political 1398 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:22,801 what their political affiliation has been in terms 1399 01:00:22,801 --> 01:00:26,133 affiliation has been in terms of organizing their spaces and 1400 01:00:26,133 --> 01:00:31,133 of organizing their spaces and I do think everyone could would 1401 01:00:31,133 --> 01:00:31,966 I do think everyone could would improve and could be better if 1402 01:00:31,966 --> 01:00:35,200 improve and could be better if we had more folks actually 1403 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,233 we had more folks actually living their truth and being 1404 01:00:37,233 --> 01:00:38,634 living their truth and being true to the community 1405 01:00:38,634 --> 01:00:40,734 true to the community regardless of their political 1406 01:00:40,734 --> 01:00:42,667 regardless of their political affiliation. So benetta Thank 1407 01:00:42,667 --> 01:00:47,533 affiliation. So benetta Thank you so much Candice. Same just 1408 01:00:47,533 --> 01:00:49,367 you so much Candice. Same just this question, just just any 1409 01:00:49,367 --> 01:00:51,600 this question, just just any final thoughts but also advice 1410 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,834 final thoughts but also advice to young folks. I mean you know 1411 01:00:53,834 --> 01:00:58,934 to young folks. I mean you know with Chisel we we work with a 1412 01:00:58,934 --> 01:01:01,167 with Chisel we we work with a young people six through 1413 01:01:01,167 --> 01:01:05,334 young people six through twelfth grade but just for any 1414 01:01:05,334 --> 01:01:11,034 twelfth grade but just for any young people Have the right to? 1415 01:01:11,034 --> 01:01:15,467 young people Have the right to? actively engage to see our 1416 01:01:15,467 --> 01:01:18,601 actively engage to see our visions come to fruition? We 1417 01:01:18,601 --> 01:01:23,033 visions come to fruition? We have the right to maintain 1418 01:01:23,033 --> 01:01:24,701 have the right to maintain authority over ourselves and 1419 01:01:24,701 --> 01:01:27,667 authority over ourselves and you know maintain a autonomy to 1420 01:01:27,667 --> 01:01:31,967 you know maintain a autonomy to be respected to be confirmed 1421 01:01:31,967 --> 01:01:33,834 be respected to be confirmed and be congratulated. We have 1422 01:01:33,834 --> 01:01:36,634 and be congratulated. We have the right to 1423 01:01:36,634 --> 01:01:39,434 the right to self-determination. but just 1424 01:01:39,434 --> 01:01:42,501 self-determination. but just like space 1425 01:01:42,701 --> 01:01:43,734 Self-determination will not be 1426 01:01:43,734 --> 01:01:45,534 Self-determination will not be given it must be taken and you 1427 01:01:45,534 --> 01:01:49,001 given it must be taken and you have to believe in yourself and 1428 01:01:49,001 --> 01:01:52,667 have to believe in yourself and your right to determine. 1429 01:01:52,801 --> 01:01:55,867 Future 1430 01:01:58,733 --> 01:02:00,301 I wish somebody had told me 1431 01:02:00,301 --> 01:02:03,734 I wish somebody had told me that you know and and maybe I 1432 01:02:03,734 --> 01:02:04,801 that you know and and maybe I wouldn’t have spent like the 1433 01:02:04,801 --> 01:02:09,733 wouldn’t have spent like the first 19 years of my life being 1434 01:02:09,733 --> 01:02:12,800 first 19 years of my life being timid and waiting for someone 1435 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,601 timid and waiting for someone to open it open a door for me. 1436 01:02:16,601 --> 01:02:20,500 to open it open a door for me. I’m I’m not that kind of girl 1437 01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:24,433 I’m I’m not that kind of girl how old you know, but I had to 1438 01:02:24,433 --> 01:02:28,301 how old you know, but I had to be empowered to do so. 1439 01:02:30,300 --> 01:02:34,501 so yeah I I want young girls to 1440 01:02:34,501 --> 01:02:37,400 so yeah I I want young girls to know right now you have every 1441 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:38,600 know right now you have every bit of strength and 1442 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,901 bit of strength and intelligence. 1443 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:47,634 That you need to govern your 1444 01:02:47,634 --> 01:02:49,934 That you need to govern your own self and govern your own 1445 01:02:49,934 --> 01:02:57,401 own self and govern your own future I would also say. be 1446 01:02:57,401 --> 01:03:02,067 future I would also say. be kind to your sisters if nobody 1447 01:03:02,067 --> 01:03:07,700 kind to your sisters if nobody else. gives your sister grace 1448 01:03:07,700 --> 01:03:11,400 else. gives your sister grace and nobody else gives your 1449 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,267 and nobody else gives your sister a break. lindt her a 1450 01:03:15,267 --> 01:03:20,567 sister a break. lindt her a hand. whatever it is you’ll be 1451 01:03:20,567 --> 01:03:24,267 hand. whatever it is you’ll be that one black women and girls 1452 01:03:24,267 --> 01:03:25,867 that one black women and girls need to always know that black 1453 01:03:25,867 --> 01:03:28,933 need to always know that black women and. 1454 01:03:30,667 --> 01:03:34,734 Are rooting for them so be that 1455 01:03:34,734 --> 01:03:38,433 Are rooting for them so be that black woman be that black girl 1456 01:03:38,433 --> 01:03:39,701 black woman be that black girl that is rooting for other black 1457 01:03:39,701 --> 01:03:42,933 that is rooting for other black women and black. 1458 01:03:44,801 --> 01:03:46,734 Thank you Candice. I appreciate 1459 01:03:46,734 --> 01:03:50,167 Thank you Candice. I appreciate you for joining us and last but 1460 01:03:50,167 --> 01:03:52,834 you for joining us and last but certainly not least for Rosa 1461 01:03:52,834 --> 01:03:55,967 certainly not least for Rosa just any thoughts and advice 1462 01:03:55,967 --> 01:04:00,134 just any thoughts and advice for you know young folks young 1463 01:04:00,134 --> 01:04:02,301 for you know young folks young gender non former folks young 1464 01:04:02,301 --> 01:04:04,200 gender non former folks young trans folks young folks trying 1465 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:05,866 trans folks young folks trying to figure out their way in the 1466 01:04:05,866 --> 01:04:07,966 to figure out their way in the world, just like just how they 1467 01:04:07,966 --> 01:04:11,234 world, just like just how they can show up in spaces or how 1468 01:04:11,234 --> 01:04:13,634 can show up in spaces or how they like like Candice and Rene 1469 01:04:13,634 --> 01:04:18,300 they like like Candice and Rene just said, how can they And 1470 01:04:18,300 --> 01:04:20,801 just said, how can they And ability that you do and that 1471 01:04:20,801 --> 01:04:24,101 ability that you do and that you need to use your privilege 1472 01:04:24,101 --> 01:04:28,567 you need to use your privilege to further that movement if 1473 01:04:28,567 --> 01:04:29,233 to further that movement if that makes sense. so it’s a two 1474 01:04:29,233 --> 01:04:33,600 that makes sense. so it’s a two part thing. Thank you, I really 1475 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,633 part thing. Thank you, I really do appreciate that and I 1476 01:04:35,633 --> 01:04:37,267 do appreciate that and I appreciate all of you for 1477 01:04:37,267 --> 01:04:40,000 appreciate all of you for joining me this evening. we 1478 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,933 joining me this evening. we just went over by a few 1479 01:04:42,933 --> 01:04:45,167 just went over by a few minutes, but I think everyone 1480 01:04:45,167 --> 01:04:47,533 minutes, but I think everyone who got a chance whether you’re 1481 01:04:47,533 --> 01:04:49,668 who got a chance whether you’re watching live or you’re 1482 01:04:49,668 --> 01:04:51,966 watching live or you’re watching on the replay to have 1483 01:04:51,966 --> 01:04:54,733 watching on the replay to have this conversation with myself 1484 01:04:54,733 --> 01:05:00,501 this conversation with myself for Rosa Candice and Renita as 1485 01:05:00,501 --> 01:05:03,334 for Rosa Candice and Renita as we wrap up June and again, like 1486 01:05:03,334 --> 01:05:06,966 we wrap up June and again, like even though pride is over after 1487 01:05:06,966 --> 01:05:11,634 even though pride is over after tonight, technically you know 1488 01:05:11,634 --> 01:05:12,167 tonight, technically you know standing in solidarity and 1489 01:05:12,167 --> 01:05:15,634 standing in solidarity and being present and. 1490 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,000 Alongside our folks in LGBTQ 1491 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:20,967 Alongside our folks in LGBTQ spaces, particularly are ??? 1492 01:05:20,967 --> 01:05:23,201 spaces, particularly are ??? and trans folks of color, it 1493 01:05:23,201 --> 01:05:26,000 and trans folks of color, it should be a priority for us 1494 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,267 should be a priority for us year round and I’m really 1495 01:05:28,267 --> 01:05:30,367 year round and I’m really thankful for all of you for 1496 01:05:30,367 --> 01:05:31,500 thankful for all of you for talking with me this evening 1497 01:05:31,500 --> 01:05:33,700 talking with me this evening and I learned so much from you 1498 01:05:33,700 --> 01:05:37,201 and I learned so much from you all constantly and you I mean 1499 01:05:37,201 --> 01:05:38,300 all constantly and you I mean you just help me show up better 1500 01:05:38,300 --> 01:05:40,633 you just help me show up better in our collective spaces. so 1501 01:05:40,633 --> 01:05:44,068 in our collective spaces. so thank you again and I thank 1502 01:05:44,068 --> 01:05:45,533 thank you again and I thank everyone for joining us this 1503 01:05:45,533 --> 01:05:47,801 everyone for joining us this evening and also thank you to 1504 01:05:47,801 --> 01:05:51,534 evening and also thank you to Ashland our chair and founder 1505 01:05:51,534 --> 01:05:53,833 Ashland our chair and founder for having the vision to even 1506 01:05:53,833 --> 01:05:54,767 for having the vision to even have this conversation in the 1507 01:05:54,767 --> 01:05:57,900 have this conversation in the first place. So. 1508 01:05:57,900 --> 01:05:57,966 first place. So. Enjoy your 1509 01:05:57,966 --> 01:06:01,933 Enjoy your evening everyone and 1510 01:06:01,933 --> 01:06:03,967 Enjoy your evening everyone and share because folks who still